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Amazing. My M3Max is going to look like a paper-weight very soon. And that's fine by me. When I get an M6 or M7Max to replace it it'll be amazing.
by gigatexal 1y ago
Amazing. My M3Max is going to look like a paper-weight very soon. And that's fine by me. When I get an M6 or M7Max to replace it it'll be amazing.
- bombcar 1y agoI’m trying to find any reason I can that my M1 Max needs replacement; it’s hard. How do you justify it?
- alexeldeib 1y agoFun one: https://incident.io/blog/festive-macbooks https://incident.io/blog/festive-macbooks
- nu11ptr 1y agoI am in the same boat as my Rust compile times are solid. I'm good for now, but with the M4 max twice as fast, upgrading to the M5 max next year could be a tempting upgrade.
- djtriptych 1y agoSame. I have an M1 Max Studio and it's just laughing at the little workloads I throw at it (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at the same time). It just never sweats AT ALL - it feels like a decade from obsolescence based on what I'm doing now. It would have to be an order of magnitude faster for me to even notice at this point.
- kinnth 1y agoyup I'm an M1 max laptop, i actually went upto an m4 pro and went back the m1 max, it could handle more trading screens!
- oblio 1y agoYou're not opening enough Chrome tabs. Or Electron apps.
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- andrepd 1y agoYou're clearly running low-intensity tasks (pro photo editing, music production, software dev, generally all at the same time) instead of highly-demanding ones (1 jira tab)
- djtriptych 1y agolol
- zahirbmirza 1y agoObsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one.
- phony-account 1y ago> Obsolescence for Macs comes when Apple decides not to allow your mac update the OS to the latest one. That doesn’t make it obsolete, at all.
- badc0ffee 1y agoWhen they stop releasing security patches for that OS version 2 years later, it becomes more risky to connect the thing to a network. Or take in any data from the outside, really, whether it's via Bluetooth, or USB drive. And then there's 3rd party software that will stop supporting that old OS version, in part because Apple's dev tools make that difficult. Eventually, Apple's own services will stop supporting that OS - no convenient iCloud support. Finally, the root CA certs bundled with the OS will become too out of date to use. I'm planning on putting Linux on my Intel Mac Mini soon. But when a M3+ Mini goes out of support, will we have that option?
- unilynx 1y agoDon't forget about Bootcamp for the (soon) obsolete Intels . With a debloated Windows 10 (which we're not going to connect to the internet anyway) they can live on for older games.
- illusive4080 1y agoEven my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Heck iPhone 6 got a security update recently. Your points are valid but it’s not 2 years, it’s more than that for big vulnerabilities.
- badc0ffee 1y ago> Even my 2017 MBP on macOS 13 still gets security updates. Has it had one since macOS 26 came out? They usually do 2 versions behind - in the summer, that was macOS 13, but now it's macOS 14.
- poultron 1y agoObsolescence comes when Apple conveniently "optimizes" a new architecture in the OS for a new chip... that conveniently, ironically, somehow severely de-optimizes things for the old chips... and suddenly that shiny new OS feels slow and sluggish and clunky and "damn I need to upgrade my computer!." They'll whitewash it not as planned obsolescence but optimization for new products. Doesn't have to be that way, shouldn't be that way, but its incredibly profitable.
- MPSimmons 1y agoMaybe by that time ARM linux on this platform will be excellent and we can migrate to it for old gear. I still have a 2011 MBP running Linux on my electronics workbench and it is just fine.
- j45 1y agoSo many articles I’ve read about the Mac Studio is how it very easily could be a 10year computer effortlessly. The additional cooling in them seems quite helpful to their performance compared to the same chip in a laptop.
- montebicyclelo 1y agoOn the contrary; now might be a good time to get an M1 Max laptop. A second hand one, ex-corporate, in good condition, with 64Gb RAM, is pretty good value, compared to new laptops at the same price. It's still a fantastic CPU.
- ozarkerD 1y agoThat's what I did, bought a used one with 64GB and a dent in the back for ~$1k a year back or so. Some of the best money i've ever spent.
- simondotau 1y agoHonestly the only Apple Silicon e-waste has been their 8GB models. And even those are still perfectly good for most people so long as they use Safari rather than Chrome.
- runlaszlorun 1y agoDoes Safari use less RAM?
- throwaway31131 1y agoData maybe somewhat dated and I haven’t measured it myself but, “Per his findings, Chrome used 290MB of RAM per open tab, while Safari only used 12MB of RAM per open tab.” https://www.macrumors.com/2021/02/20/chrome-safari-ram-test/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/02/20/chrome-safari-ram-test/
- andrei_says_ 1y agoWhere would one look for ex-corporate MacBook pros?
- montebicyclelo 1y agoAt your own risk — one place is ebay sellers with a large number of positive reviews, (and not much negative), who are selling lots of the same type of MacBook pros. My assumption is they've got a bunch of corporate laptops to sell off.
- smith7018 1y agoYou should wait until next Fall if you don't really need to replace your M1 Max. Rumors say that Apple's going to redesign the Macbook Pros next year with an OLED screen.
- kossTKR 1y agoFor the love of god remove the notch, that's the only idiotic branding vestige left.
- mort96 1y agoAnd put the web cam where? The notch is bigger than it should be for sure, I would've loved for it to be narrower. But I don't really mind the trade-off it represents. You could add half an inch of screen bezel and make the machine bigger, just to fit the web cam. Or you could remove half an inch of screen , essentially making the "notch" stretch across the whole top of the laptop. Or you could find some compromised place to put the camera, like those Dell laptops which put the camera near the hinge. Or you can let the screen fill the whole lid of the laptop, with a cut-out for the camera, and design the GUI such that the menu bar fills the part of the screen that's interrupted by the notch. I personally don't mind that last option. For my needs, it might very well be the best alternative. If I needed a bigger below-the-notch area, I could get the 16" option instead of the 14" option.
- hu3 1y agoDell XPS has webcam, no notch and same o bezel as macbooks. Maybe it's a patent thing.
- mort96 1y agoThey have the solution with the web cam near the hinge that I mentioned. I had a couple of Dell XPS laptops like that. It's fine if the webcam is really just an afterthought for you, but it does mean the webcam has a very unflattering angle that's looking up your nostrils. I use my webcam enough these days to take part in video meetings that it'd be a pretty big problem for me.
- gigatexal 1y agoI do a lot with VMs, and other memory intensive things so I went with 128GB of ram. I'm hoping for a laptop with 256GB+ in a few generations and one with more or less double the oomph would be nice. Everything can be faster, bring it on!
- dgacmu 1y agoI finally replaced my m1 mini because of memory capacity (16GB doesn't cut it for me and jumping to 64 was worth it), but I'm having the same feeling about my M1 pro MBP with 32GB. It just still works so well for nearly everything I do. I'm guessing the m5 pro may support 64GB but...
- varispeed 1y agoI have M1 Max 32GB and I think I'll go with M5 Max simply because I need more RAM. I am constantly swapping about 16GB. I don't feel it that much, but it bothers me.
- zer0zzz 1y agoI have an easy one: asahi Linux only runs on m1 and m2 at the moment
- dzhiurgis 1y agoWeird timing but my m1 started lag out recently. Must be just in my head.
- winstonp 1y agoRumor has it M6 Pro will be a total redesign. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on how much you trust Apple to nail a next gen design first try again
- throw0101d 1y ago> How do you justify it? * I want it. * I have met all my other financial obligations. * I do not have to go into debt for it. * QED
- SchemaLoad 1y agoYou'd also want to evaluate what it lets you do which improves your life rather than just "I want it"
- saagarjha 1y agoI think you misunderstood the sentiment behind the comment
- timcobb 1y agoCompilation times?
- nine_k 1y agoRunning AI inference faster, of course!
- seanmcdirmid 1y ago> How do you justify it? Local LLMs.
- gigatexal 1y agoYup LM studio loves ram.
- seanmcdirmid 1y agoThey love unified memory and they love beefy more numerous GPU cores. They definitely love the memory bandwidth the M5 Max would bring to the table.
- croemer 1y agoPersonal workloads that benefit from upgrade: Running a Python script that's CPU limited, aligning genomes in parallel on all cores. It's common that I need to wait 2min for those tasks to complete. Shaving off 30s for faster iteration loop. is meaningful.
- burnt-resistor 1y agoDid a M1 Max (32 GiB, 1 TB -> 64 GiB, 4 TB - Z14X000HR) upgrade in early 2024 for ~$1800 USD with ~20 battery cycles and 99% battery health. Avoiding *os 28 because I refuse unusable, battery-wasting bling.
- rootusrootus 1y agoI was thinking similar thoughts about my M2 Max MBP. I look at the newer chips and wonder at what point will (or has it happened already) will the base M chip outperform my M2 Max? I'll probably hold onto it a while anyway -- I think it will be a while before I find 96GB limiting or the CPU slow enough for my purposes, but I'd still like to know how things are progressing.
- lagadu 1y agoBase M4 was already slightly outperforming the M2 Max in CPU. GPU-wise it's nowhere near close.
- grishka 1y agoMy M1 Max works just fine. Everything is as snappy as it was the day I bought it. I don't see any reason it might need a replacement any time soon. (The fact that I don't install major system updates unless absolutely necessary probably helps too)