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This article was written by an LLM. I get that the author might be self-conscious about his English writing skills, but I would still much rather read the orig

• annoying_write 1y ago
  Seconding this, I hate the LLM style. It all reads the exact same. I can't relate at all to people who read the article and can't spot it immediately. It's intensely annoying for an otherwise interesting article.
  • nubg 1y ago
    Thanks for acknowledging the pain.
• whatamidoingyo 1y ago
  It didn't seem LLM-written to me until "The Operation" section. After that... yeah, hi, ChatGPT. Still an interesting story, even if an LLM was used to finish it up, lol.
  • LordDragonfang 1y ago
    I think that's because up until "The Operation", it's basically just paraphrasing the input. "The Operation" is the exact point it finishes doing that and - no longer having as much guidance - decides to start spinning its wheels making up needless, ling winded slop.
• zamadatix 1y ago
  They spend a lot of time writing about AI, it's more likely we're just not of the same crowd as them and their target audience.
• DavidDodda 1y ago
  thanks for the feedback. just fyi - this went though 11 different versions before reaching this point. so I am not able to share the full chat because i used Claude with google docs integration. but hears the google doc i started with https://docs.google.com/document/d/1of_uWXw-CppnFtWoehIrr1irL4VgX2emcJ-zMOaDRtM/edit?tab=t.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1of_uWXw-CppnFtWoehIrr1ir... this and the following prompt ``` 'help me turn this into a blog post. keep things interesting, also make sure you take a look at the images in the google doc' ``` with this system prompt ``` % INSTRUCTIONS - You are an AI Bot that is very good at mimicking an author writing style. - Your goal is to write content with the tone that is described below. - Do not go outside the tone instructions below - Do not use hashtags or emojis % Description of the authors tone: 1. *Pace*: The examples generally have a brisk pace, quickly moving from one idea to the next without lingering too long on any single point. 2. *Mood*: The mood is often energetic and motivational, with a sense of urgency and excitement. 3. *Tone*: The tone is assertive and confident, often with a hint of humor or sarcasm. There's a strong sense of opinion and authority. 4. *Style*: The style is conversational and informal, using direct language and often incorporating lists or bullet points for emphasis. 5. *Voice*: The voice is distinctive and personal, often reflecting the author's personality and perspective with a touch of wit. 6. *Formality*: The formality is low, with a casual and approachable manner that feels like a conversation with a friend. 7. *Imagery*: Imagery is used sparingly but effectively, often through vivid metaphors or analogies that create strong mental pictures. 8. *Diction*: The diction is straightforward and accessible, with a mix of colloquial expressions and precise language to convey ideas clearly. 9. *Syntax*: The syntax is varied, with a mix of short, punchy sentences and longer, more complex structures to maintain interest and rhythm. 10. *Rhythm*: The rhythm is dynamic, with a lively beat that keeps the reader engaged and propels the narrative forward. 11. *Perspective*: The perspective is often first-person, providing a personal touch and direct connection with the audience. 12. *Tension*: Tension is present in the form of suspense or conflict, often through challenges or obstacles that need to be overcome. 13. *Clarity*: The clarity is high, with ideas presented in a straightforward manner that is easy to understand. 14. *Consistency*: The consistency is strong, maintaining a uniform style and tone throughout each piece. 15. *Emotion*: Emotion is expressed with intensity, often through passionate or enthusiastic language. 16. *Humor*: Humor is present, often through witty remarks or playful language that adds a light-hearted touch. 17. *Irony*: Irony is occasionally used to highlight contradictions or to add a layer of complexity to the narrative. 18. *Symbolism*: Symbolism is used subtly, often through metaphors or analogies that convey deeper meanings. 19. *Complexity*: The complexity is moderate, with ideas presented in a way that is engaging but not overly intricate. 20. *Cohesion*: The cohesion is strong, with different parts of the writing working together harmoniously to support the overall message.```
• jatins 1y ago
  100%, it was hard to take it seriously once you see usual ChatGPT-ism What's HN policy on obviously LLM written content -- Is it considered kosher?
• foofoo12 1y ago
  I was shocked to read your comment. But then, not only was there a truth to it; you where absolutely right. * You had the headline spot on. Then you explained what you thought might be the reason for it. * Then you pondered about why the OP might have done it. * Finally you challenged the op to all but admitting his sins, by asking him to share the incriminating prompt he used. --- (my garbage wasn't written by AI, but I tried by best to imitate it's obnoxious style).
  • eikowagenknecht 1y ago
    „you where absolutely right“ could just be the perfect sentence to show you’re a human imitating an ai („where“ should be „were“, an ai wouldn’t misspell this).
    • foofoo12 1y ago
      Now ain't that something. I got caught by a spelling error whilst pretending to be an AI. I feel like the matrix is glitching.
• protonbob 1y ago
  > This wasn't some amateur hour scam. This was sophisticated: > The Bottom Line"
• Arch-TK 1y ago
  What's crazy is that I only realised this after my Fiancée pointed it out. Up to that point I thought it was just meandering way too much, I just skipped through most of it. I've not been using much LLM output recently, and generally I ask it to STFU and just give me what I asked as concisely as possible. Apparently this means I've seriously gotten out of practice on spotting this stuff. This must be what it looks like to a lot of average people ... very scary. Advice for bloggers: Write too much, write whatever comes out of your fingers until you ran out of things to write. It shouldn't be too hard to just write whatever comes out, if you save your self-criticism for later. If you're trying to explain something and you run out of things to write before you manage to succeed at your goal. Do a bit more research. Not being able to write too much about a topic is a good indication that you don't understand it well enough to explain it. Once you have a mess which somehow gets to the point, cut it way down, think critically about any dead meat. Get rid of anything which isn't actually explaining the topic you want. Then give it to an LLM, not to re-write, but to provide some editorial suggestions, fix the spelling mistakes, the clunky writing. Be very critical of any major suggestions! Be very critical of anything which no longer feels like it was written by _you_. At this point, edit it again, scrutinise it. Maybe repeat a subset of the process a couple of times. This is _enough_ you can post it. If you want to write a book, get a real editor. Do not get ChatGPT to write your post.
  • DavidDodda 1y ago
    thanks for the feedback! that's one of my key takeaways from all the comments here. a lot of people actually like the og - pre ai content I wrote more than the blog article it became. i just have to be confident in my own writing I guess. btw, how do you have Arch in your name and have a Fiancee? sounds fishy :) /s
    • Arch-TK 1y ago
      I don't use Arch any-more. But we met on IRC. We both still use Linux :)
• munksbeer 1y ago
  "instead of the slop that came out." This "slop" reads perfectly fine to me, and obviously a lot of others, except those who have now been conditioned to watch out for it and react negatively about it. Think about it, why react negatively? The text reads fine. It is clear, even with my usual lack of attention I found it engaging, and read to the end. In fact, it doesn't engage in the usual hubris style prose that a lot of people think makes them look smarter.
  • chipsrafferty 1y ago
    1. It's bad prose. If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose. 2. It's immediately recognized as AI Slop which makes people question its veracity, or intent 3. If the author can't take the time and effort to create a well-crafhed article, it's insulting to ask us to take the time and effort to read it. 4. Allowing this style of writing to become accepted and commonplace leads to a death of variety of styles over time and is not good for anyone. For multiple reasons. 5. A lot of people are cranking out shit just for money, so maybe they wrote this just for money and maybe it's not even true (related to point 3)
    • munksbeer 1y ago
      I genuinely think you're wrong and you're only seeing things this way because you have formed a dislike about AI. The prose was absolutely fine - and this sort of comment > If you think it reads fine, you don't read good prose. Is reductive and not in good spirit. Good day.
    • throw5f3e675 1y ago
      I wonder if the difference of opinion is due to native English speakers versus those who learned as a second language? I found the AI version to be really clear and it helped me understand everything that was going on. I found the Google doc version harder to read and slightly difficult to understand.
• arendtio 1y ago
  Funny, first I thought I liked the brief style. Then I thought sounds very much like an AI. And when I read the Google doc, I understood, that I would have preferred the Google doc as well :-D
• relatall 1y ago
  my best learning- zero trust to employers, real or fake, bug or small. start your own business, big or small, better than being employed