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Who says they are enforcing laws? A lot of their activity looks to be illegal.

next_xibalba 1y ago
They, law enforcement personnel, do. Who says they are taking illegal actions? Are you suggesting it is illegal to arrest and deport people who entered or stayed in the U.S. illegally?
- chris_wot 1y ago
  Many of these people are targetted because of their skin color and appearance. That's just out and out racism. They have detained citizens. They don't identify themselves and actively wear masks so they can't be indentified. They wear vests with "police", but they are not police. They are jackbooted thugs and use unnecessary violence. I can go on, it's not hard to find. America used to be the model for progressively dealing with racism. No more.
  - next_xibalba 1y ago
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    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      > How do you know that people are being targeted on the basis of skin color? SCOTUS explicitly permitted it in Noem v. Perdomo. ICE also claims they don’t need probable cause. Here’s a video of Tom Homan proving both points: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m
      - cozzyd 1y ago
        Bovino, the commanding officer for "Operation Midway Blitz" also said as much https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/09/30/transcript-audio-gregory-bovino-immigrant-arrests-downtown-chicago-chosen-how-they-look https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/09/30/transcript-audio...
    - chris_wot 1y ago
      How do I know? Because a Federal Court case found they had been targetted and it was illegal, and then your Supreme Court said this was quite fine. And no, a huge amount of people are citizens in America who aren't white - why are they getting accused of being non-citzens? Or is ICE only for white people? Wearing a mask is not a reasonable response. And what violence and threats are you referring to? In Chicago people were dancing and wearing silly suits to protest them. In terms of what a jackboot is, Google is your friend and you have a non-existent grasp of history if you have no idea what this means. Try also looking up "brown shirts".
      - next_xibalba 1y ago
        > Supreme Court said this was quite fine So, by your own words, it's not illegal. But, in reality, the SC temporarily issued a stay of an injunction issued by a lower court. That case is still active. Again, I ask, if the majority of illegal immigrants hail from countries in the Americas that are South of the U.S., would we not expect the majority of deportees to also be from those same countries? As far as I know, there are not millions of illegal immigrants in the U.S. who originated from Western Europe. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. > your Supreme Court Are they not also your supreme court? If not, why are you so concerned about the enforcement of U.S. laws? > And what violence and threats are you referring to? Here's a smattering: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] > Wearing a mask is not a reasonable response ...in your opinion. But, to return to your original claim: is it illegal? > In terms of what a jackboot is... I know what a jackboot is. I just wanted to give you an opportunity to explicate your implication. I think most readers are desensitized to the comparison of the enforcement of laws long on the books with Nazism. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/24/dhs-issues-statement-targeted-attack-dallas-ice-facility https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/24/dhs-issues-statement-tar... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/grand-jury-marimar-martinez-shot-by-federal-agents-brighton-park-chicago/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/grand-jury-marimar-mart... [3] https://www.fox4news.com/news/alvarado-ice-attack-6-women-arraigned https://www.fox4news.com/news/alvarado-ice-attack-6-women-ar... [4] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/facebook-takes-down-page-that-justice-department-says-was-used-harass-ice-agents-2025-10-14/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/facebook-takes-down-page-th... [5] https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/federal-grand-jury-charges-three-women-following-ice-agent-home-work-and-livestreaming https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/federal-grand-jury-char... [6] https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/21/san-jose-man-facing-deportation-charged-with-assaulting-ice-officer/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/21/san-jose-man-facing-d...
RickJWagner 1y ago
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- chris_wot 1y ago
  I’ve seen a lot of protestors in silly suits and dancing. The pastor who was shot from a rooftop the other day wasn’t being violent. The delivery guy on his push bike who they started chasing wasn’t being violent. One of the people in an inflatable suit was so incredibly dangerous that they sprayed tear gas into the suit vent. I'm guessing your news feeds are all Fox News? I have seen footage of ICE agents shooting up cars and smashing windows. Maybe you should show what you are seeing, because the subway sandwich guy in a chicken suit that Kristi Noem was looking at from a rooftop the other day didn’t look very dangerous or violent.
  - RickJWagner 1y ago
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    - chris_wot 1y ago
      John Cerrone, Afghanistan veteran was knocked to the ground after doing nothing wrong, detained unlawfully for nine hours in a blood and mucus encrusted cell whilst being taunted by ICE agents. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEpsthDYC8/?igsh=MTF1YmN6NGgxOHd6MQ%3D%3D https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEpsthDYC8/?igsh=MTF1YmN6NGg... US marine corps veteran Daryn Herzberg II, who served in Afghanistan, is seeking $150,000 in damages after he was hospitalized after being tackled from behind by Ice agents while protesting outside a federal facility in Portland on 13 August. https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/video-shows-marine-veteran-tackled-at-portland-ice-protest/ https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/video-shows-marine-veteran-... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/us-veterans-protest-ice-raids https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/us-veterans-... In case you’ve forgotten, ICE shackled a bunch of Korean workers who were legally in the U.S. - they’ve all gone home now and won’t be coming back. Cost you fools billions.
      - 1y ago

They, law enforcement personnel, do. Who says they are taking illegal actions? Are you suggesting it is illegal to arrest and deport people who entered or stayed in the U.S. illegally?

chris_wot 1y ago
Many of these people are targetted because of their skin color and appearance. That's just out and out racism. They have detained citizens. They don't identify themselves and actively wear masks so they can't be indentified. They wear vests with "police", but they are not police. They are jackbooted thugs and use unnecessary violence. I can go on, it's not hard to find. America used to be the model for progressively dealing with racism. No more.
- next_xibalba 1y ago
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  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    > How do you know that people are being targeted on the basis of skin color? SCOTUS explicitly permitted it in Noem v. Perdomo. ICE also claims they don’t need probable cause. Here’s a video of Tom Homan proving both points: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m
    - cozzyd 1y ago
      Bovino, the commanding officer for "Operation Midway Blitz" also said as much https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/09/30/transcript-audio-gregory-bovino-immigrant-arrests-downtown-chicago-chosen-how-they-look https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/09/30/transcript-audio...
  - chris_wot 1y ago
    How do I know? Because a Federal Court case found they had been targetted and it was illegal, and then your Supreme Court said this was quite fine. And no, a huge amount of people are citizens in America who aren't white - why are they getting accused of being non-citzens? Or is ICE only for white people? Wearing a mask is not a reasonable response. And what violence and threats are you referring to? In Chicago people were dancing and wearing silly suits to protest them. In terms of what a jackboot is, Google is your friend and you have a non-existent grasp of history if you have no idea what this means. Try also looking up "brown shirts".
    - next_xibalba 1y ago
      > Supreme Court said this was quite fine So, by your own words, it's not illegal. But, in reality, the SC temporarily issued a stay of an injunction issued by a lower court. That case is still active. Again, I ask, if the majority of illegal immigrants hail from countries in the Americas that are South of the U.S., would we not expect the majority of deportees to also be from those same countries? As far as I know, there are not millions of illegal immigrants in the U.S. who originated from Western Europe. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. > your Supreme Court Are they not also your supreme court? If not, why are you so concerned about the enforcement of U.S. laws? > And what violence and threats are you referring to? Here's a smattering: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] > Wearing a mask is not a reasonable response ...in your opinion. But, to return to your original claim: is it illegal? > In terms of what a jackboot is... I know what a jackboot is. I just wanted to give you an opportunity to explicate your implication. I think most readers are desensitized to the comparison of the enforcement of laws long on the books with Nazism. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/24/dhs-issues-statement-targeted-attack-dallas-ice-facility https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/24/dhs-issues-statement-tar... [2] https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/grand-jury-marimar-martinez-shot-by-federal-agents-brighton-park-chicago/ https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/grand-jury-marimar-mart... [3] https://www.fox4news.com/news/alvarado-ice-attack-6-women-arraigned https://www.fox4news.com/news/alvarado-ice-attack-6-women-ar... [4] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/facebook-takes-down-page-that-justice-department-says-was-used-harass-ice-agents-2025-10-14/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/facebook-takes-down-page-th... [5] https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/federal-grand-jury-charges-three-women-following-ice-agent-home-work-and-livestreaming https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/federal-grand-jury-char... [6] https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/21/san-jose-man-facing-deportation-charged-with-assaulting-ice-officer/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/05/21/san-jose-man-facing-d...

RickJWagner 1y ago

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chris_wot 1y ago
I’ve seen a lot of protestors in silly suits and dancing. The pastor who was shot from a rooftop the other day wasn’t being violent. The delivery guy on his push bike who they started chasing wasn’t being violent. One of the people in an inflatable suit was so incredibly dangerous that they sprayed tear gas into the suit vent. I'm guessing your news feeds are all Fox News? I have seen footage of ICE agents shooting up cars and smashing windows. Maybe you should show what you are seeing, because the subway sandwich guy in a chicken suit that Kristi Noem was looking at from a rooftop the other day didn’t look very dangerous or violent.
- RickJWagner 1y ago
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  - chris_wot 1y ago
    John Cerrone, Afghanistan veteran was knocked to the ground after doing nothing wrong, detained unlawfully for nine hours in a blood and mucus encrusted cell whilst being taunted by ICE agents. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEpsthDYC8/?igsh=MTF1YmN6NGgxOHd6MQ%3D%3D https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEpsthDYC8/?igsh=MTF1YmN6NGg... US marine corps veteran Daryn Herzberg II, who served in Afghanistan, is seeking $150,000 in damages after he was hospitalized after being tackled from behind by Ice agents while protesting outside a federal facility in Portland on 13 August. https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/video-shows-marine-veteran-tackled-at-portland-ice-protest/ https://www.koin.com/news/oregon/video-shows-marine-veteran-... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/us-veterans-protest-ice-raids https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/us-veterans-... In case you’ve forgotten, ICE shackled a bunch of Korean workers who were legally in the U.S. - they’ve all gone home now and won’t be coming back. Cost you fools billions.
    - 1y ago