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> This argument comes up a lot, but it feels a bit silly to me. If you want a beefy server you start out with renting one. $150/month will give you a server wit
by hrimfaxi 1y ago
> This argument comes up a lot, but it feels a bit silly to me. If you want a beefy server you start out with renting one. $150/month will give you a server with 24 core Xeon and 256GB of RAM, in a data center with everything you mentined plus a 24/7 hands-on technician you can book.
What's the bandwidth and where can I rent one of these??
- wongarsu 1y agoHetzner [1]. Bandwidth is 1 GBit/s. You can also get 10 GBit/s, that's hidden away a bit instead of being mentioned on the order page [2] 1: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex 2: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-uplink/ https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/10g-...
- coder543 1y agoI have wished for years that Hetzner would offer their bare metal servers in the U.S., and not just Hetzner Cloud.
- Aeolun 1y agoHere is US Hetzner: https://ioflood.com/ https://ioflood.com/ Their prices have come down a lot. I used them when the servers still cost $200 a piece, but their support at the time was fantastic.
- christophilus 1y agoWow. No joke. I haven’t heard of them, but I like their blurb, and those are Hetzner like prices. Now, I just need to find a use for that much beef.
- hrimfaxi 1y agoHow is that any different from cloud? This whole thread was a response to > Today at AWS, it is easily possible for people to spend a multiple of the cost of that hardware setup every month for far less compute power and storage. suggesting to use a few beefy servers but if we are renting them from cloud we're back where we started.
- wongarsu 1y agoThe difference from the big clouds is that an equivalent instance at AWS costs 10x as much. If you go with few beefy servers AWS offers very little value for the money they charge, they only make sense for "cloud native" architectures. But if you rent raw servers from traditional hosters you can get prices much closer to the amortized costs of running them yourself, with the added convenience of having them in a certified data center with 24/7 security, backup power, etc. If you want more control than that, colo is also pretty cheap [1]. But I'd consider that a step above what 95% of people need https://www.hetzner.com/colocation https://www.hetzner.com/colocation
- hrimfaxi 1y agoFor me the comparison was not against the specific instance of AWS but cloud in general, and AWS was a for instance. Which was the whole reason why I brought up compliance and stuff—it is much cheaper to have someone else handle that for you (even if it is hetzner!). That was my whole point.
- deaux 1y agoNot ideal when a large part of your userbase is in APAC.
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- iknowstuff 1y agohttps://us.ovhcloud.com/bare-metal/prices/?display=list https://us.ovhcloud.com/bare-metal/prices/?display=list also pretty sure 24 cores is like 48 cloud “cores” which are usually just hyper threads right?