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okay but he literally does have a bridge that non-deterministically might take you to the wrong place to sell you

• meowface 1y ago
  The original context of this sub-thread was Karpathy saying how AI coding tools were pretty useless for him when working on this particular project.
  • troupo 1y ago
    Indeed. And only Karpathy is entitled to say that AI tools produce wrong code for him. And he's only entitled to say it for this project only. If anyone else says this, "the skepticism is exhausting", and their experience is completely irrelevant.
    • kasey_junk 1y ago
      Go look at the comments on HN whenever someone posts about their AI coding workflow. It will be littered with negative comments that either imply or outright say that the poster is either shilling, ignorant or working only on toy examples. The grievance attitude seems to exist in both directions and is actually what is exhausting.
      • troupo 1y ago
        > It will be littered with negative comments that either imply or outright say that the poster is either shilling, ignorant or working only on toy examples. And they would be often be right. Coupled with the fact that most of the glowing "omg I only code with AI" posts don't even try to show what code or products they are working on. And yes, the absolute vast majority of people who are skeptical are skeptical precisely because they use these tools every day themselves.
        • kasey_junk 1y ago
          Just so we are clear, you are upset by people dismissing your experience gained skepticism but have no problem dismissing every positive comment as a shill, ignorant or simple? You don’t see any dissonance in that? It’s only the positive people that are exhausting?
          • troupo 1y ago
            I myself post positive comments about AI from time to time. I never pretend that AI is the be all end all of programming, don't claim that it can do all the magical things, or that it's capable of running hours on end just creating software with not proof like most positive posts do. See the difference? I'm all for positive posts. I'm against childish belief in magic: https://dmitriid.com/everything-around-llms-is-still-magical-and-wishful-thinking https://dmitriid.com/everything-around-llms-is-still-magical...
      • hirako2000 1y ago
        posts about yet another ai workflow, typically presented with hyperbole is exhausting. The backfires are rather appeasing, entertaining at the least.
      • AlexeyBelov 1y ago
        Show HNs about AI startups are littered with positive comments though. It's rare to see people calling out the submitter.