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"Yeah? They shouldn't be. Any attempt to deny us service on the basis of the software we use should be classified as discrimination" but this doesn't work in r

"Yeah? They shouldn't be. Any attempt to deny us service on the basis of the software we use should be classified as discrimination" but this doesn't work in real world are they??? I mean look at apple, the iOS is locked down device and consumer know what they buy into and its user also fine with it

matheusmoreira 1y ago
> consumer know what they buy into Consumers don't know anything about what's being done to them. Even on Hacker News I get accused of being a paranoid schizophrenic "tinfoil hat" user when I point out the fact we have trillion dollar corporations building digital fiefdoms with users as the serfs. You think non-technologists can grasp this? You have far more optimism and faith in humanity than me if you truly believe that.
- tonyhart7 1y ago
  but that just late-stage capitalism ????? I understand where your coming from but the words of choice make it maybe more hyperbole also stop acting like most user is idiot tbh they just dont care enough for this shit they do care if the situation get worse, and until then if said corporation is "refuse" to serve customer like they used to be people can retaliate
  - matheusmoreira 1y ago
    > they just dont care enough for this shit That is the definition of idiot. A person who's so alienated they don't participate in these public matters. > they do care if the situation get worse By the point normal people start caring, the system will be so thoroughly entrenched that violent revolution will be the only option avaliable to them.
    - allarm 1y ago
      You cannot participate in all public matters, that’s naive and unrealistic. And stop calling people idiots for not doing that, this definition is outdated.
- suslik 1y ago
  > building digital fiefdoms with users as the serfs I wouldn't call you names, but this does sound rather extreme. It also sounds rather imprecise. Is this a metaphor, or a hyperbole, or do you actually mean this literally? If so, in what way I, an iOS user, going to be an Apple serf?

matheusmoreira 1y ago

> consumer know what they buy into Consumers don't know anything about what's being done to them. Even on Hacker News I get accused of being a paranoid schizophrenic "tinfoil hat" user when I point out the fact we have trillion dollar corporations building digital fiefdoms with users as the serfs. You think non-technologists can grasp this? You have far more optimism and faith in humanity than me if you truly believe that.

tonyhart7 1y ago
but that just late-stage capitalism ????? I understand where your coming from but the words of choice make it maybe more hyperbole also stop acting like most user is idiot tbh they just dont care enough for this shit they do care if the situation get worse, and until then if said corporation is "refuse" to serve customer like they used to be people can retaliate
- matheusmoreira 1y ago
  > they just dont care enough for this shit That is the definition of idiot. A person who's so alienated they don't participate in these public matters. > they do care if the situation get worse By the point normal people start caring, the system will be so thoroughly entrenched that violent revolution will be the only option avaliable to them.
  - allarm 1y ago
    You cannot participate in all public matters, that’s naive and unrealistic. And stop calling people idiots for not doing that, this definition is outdated.
suslik 1y ago
> building digital fiefdoms with users as the serfs I wouldn't call you names, but this does sound rather extreme. It also sounds rather imprecise. Is this a metaphor, or a hyperbole, or do you actually mean this literally? If so, in what way I, an iOS user, going to be an Apple serf?