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dude again, we have computers that can talk and make decisions. We have birthed something here. We have something, this is big.
by mikert89 1y ago
dude again, we have computers that can talk and make decisions. We have birthed something here. We have something, this is big.
- mjhay 1y agoEven by HN standards, this is just an incredible comment. You’d think it’s satire, but I doubt it.
- rootusrootus 1y agoOne of the reasons I like to swing by HN on the weekend is that the flavor of the comments is a lot spicier. For better or worse.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoIs that a thing now?
- mikert89 1y agosee i was thinking my comments didnt go far enough in describing what we are witnessing
- skywhopper 1y agoThe last thing we need is a bunch of random chatter, but that’s all these things can do. They can’t make decisions because they don’t actually relate to the real world. Humans (like you, apparently) may think a talking computer is a magic oracle but you’re fooling yourself.
- dgacmu 1y agoI had a computer that could talk and make decisions in 1982. It sounded pretty robotic and the decisions were 1982-level AI: Lots of if statements. I'm not really trying to be snarky; I'm trying to point out to you that you're being really vague. And that when you actually get really, really concrete about what we have it ... starts to seem a little less magical than saying "computers that talk and think". Computers that are really quite good at sampling from a distribution of high-likelihood next language tokens based upon complex and long context window is still a pretty incredible thing, but it seems a little less likely to put us all out of a job in the next 10 years.
- pixl97 1y ago>I had a computer that could talk and make decisions in 1982. And it became and industry that as completely and totally changed the world. The world was just so analog back then. >starts to seem a little less magical than saying "computers that talk and think" Computer thinking will never become magical. As soon as we figure something out it becomes "oh that is just X". It is human thinking that will become less magical over time.
- crote 1y agoThe "talking and making decisions" part didn't change the world, though. It was the digital spreadsheets and letters that did.
- dcminter 1y agoDefine "make decisions" such that an 'if' statement does not qualify but an llm does. LLMs may be a stepping stone to AGI. It's impressive tech. But nobody's proven anything like that yet, and you're running on pure faith not facts here.
- mikert89 1y agoi mean, if given the choice between using a coding agent like the codex ui, or a CS intern, I would take the coding agent every time. to me its self evident whats going on
- dcminter 1y agoWell frankly your lack of concrete arguments makes it seem a lot like you don't actually understand what's going on here. I'm enjoying the new LLM based tooling a lot, but nothing about it suggests that we're in any way near to AGI because it's very much a one trick pony so far. When we see generative AI that updates its weights in real time (currently an intractible problem) as part of the feedback loop then things might get very interesting. Until then it's just another tool in the box. CS interns learn.
- rootusrootus 1y agoI get a new batch of CS interns for my team every year, and I use Claude Code every day. I think Claude is pretty amazing and it definitely provides value for me, but I would choose the intern every time. I am really skeptical of any claims of getting the kind of productivity and capability growth out of an LLM that would make it an adequate replacement for a human developer.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoYou should post something more substantial than this.
- mikert89 1y agoits a problem of imagination, "situational awareness". People are simply not aware of what we have discovered, their minds cannot see beyond a chatbox. thats not even to mention the smoothness of the loss functions the big ai labs are seeing, the smooth progression of the scaling laws. its all there, it progresses daily