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A wrangler using software just does not "compute" to me. But I guess this is our new world. I drove a CJ for many years until it rusted out from under me and

by jmclnx 1y ago

A wrangler using software just does not "compute" to me. But I guess this is our new world. I drove a CJ for many years until it rusted out from under me and the engine seized, but I thought it was great, I went everywhere with it. I would like to have a wrangler but it is too expensive, too many bells and whistles and to large, I would never get one. Now I an driving an 18 year auto and hope to keep it going for another 18 :)

timnetworks 1y ago
Jeep parts and frames and cabs are plentiful in the right circles, you can still build out a good wrangler (2.4 or 2.5 or 3L) for less money than a new car, and know your computer is planted firmly under the driver's seat and not connecting to anything.
- hk1337 1y ago
  This reminds me if Radar mailing a jeep home a piece at a time.
  - jzb 1y ago
    The Johnny Cash song, “One Piece At a Time” along those lines is a classic.
- xbar 1y ago
  Ugh. This is a rabbit hole that beckons.
PKop 1y ago
> A wrangler using software just does not "compute" to me. In the case of this Jeep bug causing engine shutoff and power failure, it was an update to the infotainment system! It's easy to compute that these infotainment systems run software; what's crazy is updates to them can cause catastrophic failure to powering the car and ability of the car to drive.
- analog31 1y ago
  Well, in fairness, it's informational and entertaining to everybody who doesn't have one of the cars.
technothrasher 1y ago
The American Heritage Museum in Massachusetts is raffling off a 1944 Ford GPW jeep in fully restored condition. Pretty sure there are no computers in that one! But sorry, floor mounted Browning 50 cal machine gun is a replica. https://www.tapkat.org/american-heritage-museum/lkaKb5?promo=WEB2025 https://www.tapkat.org/american-heritage-museum/lkaKb5?promo...
1970-01-01 1y ago
It's an EV hybrid. It needs software to not explode.
pixl97 1y ago
Cars have been using software since the 90s, hence 'electronic' fuel injection. Really the only thing different these days is stupid over the air updates that can brick shit. Otherwise you'd have to carry it into the dealer to get flashed or a new module put in.

by jmclnx 1y ago

timnetworks 1y ago

Jeep parts and frames and cabs are plentiful in the right circles, you can still build out a good wrangler (2.4 or 2.5 or 3L) for less money than a new car, and know your computer is planted firmly under the driver's seat and not connecting to anything.

hk1337 1y ago
This reminds me if Radar mailing a jeep home a piece at a time.
- jzb 1y ago
  The Johnny Cash song, “One Piece At a Time” along those lines is a classic.
xbar 1y ago
Ugh. This is a rabbit hole that beckons.

PKop 1y ago

> A wrangler using software just does not "compute" to me. In the case of this Jeep bug causing engine shutoff and power failure, it was an update to the infotainment system! It's easy to compute that these infotainment systems run software; what's crazy is updates to them can cause catastrophic failure to powering the car and ability of the car to drive.

analog31 1y ago
Well, in fairness, it's informational and entertaining to everybody who doesn't have one of the cars.

technothrasher 1y ago

The American Heritage Museum in Massachusetts is raffling off a 1944 Ford GPW jeep in fully restored condition. Pretty sure there are no computers in that one! But sorry, floor mounted Browning 50 cal machine gun is a replica. https://www.tapkat.org/american-heritage-museum/lkaKb5?promo=WEB2025 https://www.tapkat.org/american-heritage-museum/lkaKb5?promo...

1970-01-01 1y ago

It's an EV hybrid. It needs software to not explode.

pixl97 1y ago

Cars have been using software since the 90s, hence 'electronic' fuel injection. Really the only thing different these days is stupid over the air updates that can brick shit. Otherwise you'd have to carry it into the dealer to get flashed or a new module put in.