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> Bushart did not elaborate, but the context seems clear: Why should I care about this shooting, when the sitting president said I should "get over" this other
by hyperhello 1y ago
> Bushart did not elaborate, but the context seems clear: Why should I care about this shooting, when the sitting president said I should "get over" this other shooting?
From one perspective, this is clearly bad governance. He's using his free speech rights that generations of us died for, to point out hypocrisy.
I'm going to say it, and we'll see if I get arrested for it. Charlie Kirk was one of the useful idiots groomed from high school to push conservative propaganda. One of his assignments was to minimize the cultural impact of school shootings. He died in front of thousands in a school shooting.
Maybe that irony is something and maybe it is nothing. But the essence of conservative propaganda, that will survive any individual propaganda and any individual regime, is the central idea that some of us have rights and freedoms and some of us don't. So any deviation from that idea must be punished very severely.
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- metwo1234 1y ago[flagged]
- steveBK123 1y agoDon’t think anyone said he deserved to die. Just don’t think anyone needs to be arrested for a meme. Especially since these crackdowns are being done by all the free speech enjoyers who are currently in power.
- JoshTriplett 1y ago1) Nobody should ever die for what they say. 2) Nobody should ever get arrested for saying it was good that someone died, or that they're not sad about it, or that the world is better off without them, or that they were a hateful person, or any number of other things someone might say.
- vkou 1y ago3) Nobody should ever get arrested for saying that everyone should get over the death of someone, but it seems that we've already passed this point. Are people going to need to protest with blank signs next year?
- 1659447091 1y ago> Are people going to need to protest with blank signs next year? TIL: Blank paper protest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_paper_protest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_paper_protest
- metwo1234 1y ago2) If someone says "it is good this person died we should kill more people like this" and someone goes and follows through should they get arrested for that?
- e40 1y agoHow this question came from you reading that comment is beyond me.
- yibg 1y agoIf I say it’s ok he was killed for this, should I be arrested?
- fluidcruft 1y agoSo you're suggesting it's more than ironic and is some form of instant karma? Gross.
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- wbl 1y agoAre the children in the divorced houses doing the shooting?
- rayiner 1y agoMost of them: https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Protecting_Americas_Schools.pdf https://www.secretservice.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Pr.... See pages 29-30.
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- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> while the percentage of households with guns has gone down, significantly The civilian gun stock has grown significantly since the 60s [1]. These data, together, seem to imply a large (but declining) number of households with a couple of guns and a few households with a ridiculous number of guns. Of course, the dagger in your argument is that American divorce rates are not extraordinary [2]. Our gun ownership and school shooting rates are. Given school shooters [3] (and now political shooters) come from gun-owning households, it seems fair to pin the blame for these events on that fraction of one third of American households who maintain private armories. [1] https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/ https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_divorce_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_divorce_r... [3] https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/27379/Study-Adolescent-school-shooters-often-use-guns?autologincheck=redirected https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/27379/Study-Adoles...
- robotresearcher 1y ago> Of course, the dagger in your argument is… Reading comprehension moment: the parent comment was carefully not claiming either side of the argument. Your response, and the downvotes, are as if they declared for the locally unpopular side. They did not.
- freedomben 1y agoWho groomed him, and who gave him the assignment to minimize the cultural impact of school shootings?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoAn uncaring algorithm that maximizes engagement.
- ceejayoz 1y agoRush Limbaugh and Bill Montgomery for the first bit. The second bit he was hardly innovative on. That’s been a thing since at least Columbine.
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- eth0up 1y agoThere's a large group of people saying that anyone who doesn't accept a guy from a couple thousand years ago into a primary organ in their chest area, that not only do they deserve to die, they will, and then be damned for eternity. Others openly suggest capital punishment for nonviolent crimes. E.g. narco boaters, repeat offenders, homeless (see: Killmeade), drugs etc. In fact, we have no sanctions on Singapore, a land where one can indeed be killed for fussing with drugs. There are of course, many other similar examples. Both the left, right and many between recommend death for many people, in a manner having nothing to do with self defense, response to murder or in alignment with current law. Ouch. We have a LOT OF PEOPLE TO ARREST! I expect hypocrisy to complicate the process a bit though. Edit: I should say, by the speed of the dvotes, I'll be on the hitlist too. And upholding the First Amendment and the rest of our Constitution is well worth it.
- daseiner1 1y agolarge-scale drug smuggling is absolutely a violent crime.
- eth0up 1y agoEven when it isn't? Edit: what your type tends to be highly obtuse to, is the impending reality of blowback, where your warping of law is turned upon you. But it feels so good now, it must be worth it. Abuse of power has serious consequences.
- daseiner1 1y ago"my type". based on what, exactly? i don't like this administration — at all — and I believe we're definitionally in a fascist state now. the lives of many of my friends & family have been devastated by drugs. 80k+ americans die every year from overdose. i understand why you may disagree with me with and i'm not going to dismiss your concerns out-of-hand but multinational illegal drug enterprises are absolutely an assault on this country in my view. i'm talking about organized criminal enterprises, not dudes pitching eight balls in nightclub bathrooms.