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Firefox mobile was basically the only option I considered for a long time just because it lets you install Ublock origin . Not sure if other mobile browsers ha

Firefox mobile was basically the only option I considered for a long time just because it lets you install Ublock origin . Not sure if other mobile browsers have that now too or not. I'm a firefox user on desktop anyway so I love having tab sharing between my phone and all my pcs. They also added a nice feature recently that optionally requires an additional login (fingerprint) to access private tabs. I have found no reason to switch.

randomNumber7 1y ago
The adblock is it. Even if it would be a lot slower and worse than other browsers I would still use it. Who is voluntarily browsing the internet without adblock?
- comprev 1y ago
  Probably 99.9% of daily users because they know no different.
  - naldb 1y ago
    I was curious and obviously there is no single exact source but it seems like ~30% of web users have an ad blocker of some kind. Remember that some quite popular browsers include a built-in ad blocker.
- 0xCMP 1y ago
  Ads pay for everything and Google/Meta are making huge profits (minus AI spending)... so probably most people.
- agiacalone 1y ago
  I teach CS at a state university, specifically computer security. At the beginning of this semester, I did a poll of my students and asked if they use any form of ad-blocking. Less than a third of my students did, and not many more even knew about browsers other than Chrome or Safari. This was out of a class of ~110. Granted, it's anecdotal, but if 66% of my upper-division CS students don't even know about Firefox and ad-blocking, than I seriously doubt many non-tech people do. Similarly, after that lecture, I had a student come to my office hours and ask for more info about ad-blockers. I had them open up msn.com and showed them the large banner ad on the page. It took a few seconds for them to even realize they were being advertised to! I then showed them my browser, nice and ad-free. I get the impression that people have gotten so used to ads flashing in their face that they gloss over them. But the damage is still done.
  - la_fayette 1y ago
    Although I didn't collect numbers, but I made a similar experience in my workplace. I assume many people are highly distracted by ads and work efficiency is even reduced. Even many software engineers seem to not be aware of ublock... Would be interesting to know how many students started using an ad blocker at the end of your lecture :)
  - Exoristos 1y ago
    That's not anecdotal; that's a small study.
  - jowea 1y ago
    It's called banner blindness. The brain ends up trained to do the adblocking itself.
    - illiac786 1y ago
      No, the brain doesn’t Adblock, that’s the misconception. It gets used to ads to a point where it is not registered _consciously_ anymore. But the ad works subconsciously very well, armies of marketing people studied this.
    - randomNumber7 1y ago
      Brainblock should be the name.
      - xnx 1y ago
        Mindshield
  - sshine 1y ago
    I did a poll in my CS class last year and half the students knew of it. This is a trade school level CS class so the number struck me as impressive. In another light, it is pretty low.
- eth0up 1y ago
  I recently figured I'd try browsing without a dedicated adblocker. Using NextDNS, configured with several adblockers, I thought it would be interesting to see how effective it would be alone. In approximately no time at all, I wanted to go full Amish. Maybe Office Space. Ublock should be protected as a religion. It is divinely inspired and a modern miracle. I know about false idols and the antichrist and all that, but I think even Jesus would approve. Gorhill is a Saint. Hail Saint gorhill!
- spacechild1 1y ago
  I have been using Firefox + ad blockers almost exclusively for almost 20 years now on all my devices. I also install Firefox + uBlock Origin for all my family members. I'm constantly suprised when I look at other people's browsers. How can they put up with all those ads, especially on YouTube? (I have uBlock disabled for a certain national newspaper and I'm pretty close to paying for a subscription instead :)
  - sillyfluke 1y ago
    Does Firefox + ublock origin work on iOS? Don't you have to go through the app store to download the adblockers separately?
    - LopovJack 1y ago
      There is no extensions on FF for iOS, no adblocking. It's just Safari skin.
sirfz 1y ago
I noticed google cloud console runs extremely slow (practically unusable) on Firefox Android while there're no issues with Chrome. No issues with any other site which I find strange.
- burnte 1y ago
  Change your user agent string to Chrome and see if it speeds up. Youtube will, for example.
- db48x 1y ago
  It’s not strange, it’s deliberate.
internet2000 1y ago
Safari has uBlock Origin now https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id6745342698 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...
- nine_k 1y ago
  iOS does not have real Firefox though; among other things, it can't run uBlock Origin.
  - gorjussDave 1y ago
    [dead]
  - ojosilva 1y ago
    Yeah, that's really sad and totally undermines my UX on iOS (my iPad particularly). On my Android phone and macOS FF is my go-to browser, a delightful, irreplaceable experience. Sometimes people are amazed by the experience when I show them, look, no ads. But then they go back to their phones and just use whatever crap they use. I was hoping that the EU directive [1] would give FF a chance of using their own engine, at least in the EU, but no word from that camp, so... I guess not. 1. https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engines/ https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...
    - PeakKS 1y ago
      There is some activity in the mozilla bugzilla related to the gecko ios port, who knows when anything will be usable though.
- JohnTHaller 1y ago
  It has uBlock Origin Lite. That's the same thing Chrome on desktop has. It's not real uBlock Origin and far less powerful.
snielson 1y ago
Ublock origin can be installed in Edge mobile.
- EasyMark 1y ago
  ublock origin or ublock lite?
  - pyxelr 1y ago
    Both of them can be installed.
- esperent 1y ago
  Do you still need to set a config flag for extensions to work?
EasyMark 1y ago
Brave offers basically the same level of ad blocking including on ios
- sshine 1y ago
  Orion by Kagi ships with adblock on iOS in the EU, at least, where Apple is required by law to allow for different browser engines. Firefox on mobile has had a crippling performance regression on excessive tabs twice in 3 years. I have it installed as a password service, but opening the app kills my iPhone.
- PufPufPuf 1y ago
  Yeah, but it also has bl*ckchain.
  - port11 1y ago
    Which can be disabled.
  - grigio 1y ago
    the blockch*in doesn't bite you

randomNumber7 1y ago

The adblock is it. Even if it would be a lot slower and worse than other browsers I would still use it. Who is voluntarily browsing the internet without adblock?

comprev 1y ago
Probably 99.9% of daily users because they know no different.
- naldb 1y ago
  I was curious and obviously there is no single exact source but it seems like ~30% of web users have an ad blocker of some kind. Remember that some quite popular browsers include a built-in ad blocker.
0xCMP 1y ago
Ads pay for everything and Google/Meta are making huge profits (minus AI spending)... so probably most people.
agiacalone 1y ago
I teach CS at a state university, specifically computer security. At the beginning of this semester, I did a poll of my students and asked if they use any form of ad-blocking. Less than a third of my students did, and not many more even knew about browsers other than Chrome or Safari. This was out of a class of ~110. Granted, it's anecdotal, but if 66% of my upper-division CS students don't even know about Firefox and ad-blocking, than I seriously doubt many non-tech people do. Similarly, after that lecture, I had a student come to my office hours and ask for more info about ad-blockers. I had them open up msn.com and showed them the large banner ad on the page. It took a few seconds for them to even realize they were being advertised to! I then showed them my browser, nice and ad-free. I get the impression that people have gotten so used to ads flashing in their face that they gloss over them. But the damage is still done.
- la_fayette 1y ago
  Although I didn't collect numbers, but I made a similar experience in my workplace. I assume many people are highly distracted by ads and work efficiency is even reduced. Even many software engineers seem to not be aware of ublock... Would be interesting to know how many students started using an ad blocker at the end of your lecture :)
- Exoristos 1y ago
  That's not anecdotal; that's a small study.
- jowea 1y ago
  It's called banner blindness. The brain ends up trained to do the adblocking itself.
  - illiac786 1y ago
    No, the brain doesn’t Adblock, that’s the misconception. It gets used to ads to a point where it is not registered _consciously_ anymore. But the ad works subconsciously very well, armies of marketing people studied this.
  - randomNumber7 1y ago
    Brainblock should be the name.
    - xnx 1y ago
      Mindshield
- sshine 1y ago
  I did a poll in my CS class last year and half the students knew of it. This is a trade school level CS class so the number struck me as impressive. In another light, it is pretty low.
eth0up 1y ago
I recently figured I'd try browsing without a dedicated adblocker. Using NextDNS, configured with several adblockers, I thought it would be interesting to see how effective it would be alone. In approximately no time at all, I wanted to go full Amish. Maybe Office Space. Ublock should be protected as a religion. It is divinely inspired and a modern miracle. I know about false idols and the antichrist and all that, but I think even Jesus would approve. Gorhill is a Saint. Hail Saint gorhill!
spacechild1 1y ago
I have been using Firefox + ad blockers almost exclusively for almost 20 years now on all my devices. I also install Firefox + uBlock Origin for all my family members. I'm constantly suprised when I look at other people's browsers. How can they put up with all those ads, especially on YouTube? (I have uBlock disabled for a certain national newspaper and I'm pretty close to paying for a subscription instead :)
- sillyfluke 1y ago
  Does Firefox + ublock origin work on iOS? Don't you have to go through the app store to download the adblockers separately?
  - LopovJack 1y ago
    There is no extensions on FF for iOS, no adblocking. It's just Safari skin.

sirfz 1y ago

I noticed google cloud console runs extremely slow (practically unusable) on Firefox Android while there're no issues with Chrome. No issues with any other site which I find strange.

burnte 1y ago
Change your user agent string to Chrome and see if it speeds up. Youtube will, for example.
db48x 1y ago
It’s not strange, it’s deliberate.

internet2000 1y ago

Safari has uBlock Origin now https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id6745342698 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

nine_k 1y ago
iOS does not have real Firefox though; among other things, it can't run uBlock Origin.
- gorjussDave 1y ago
  [dead]
- ojosilva 1y ago
  Yeah, that's really sad and totally undermines my UX on iOS (my iPad particularly). On my Android phone and macOS FF is my go-to browser, a delightful, irreplaceable experience. Sometimes people are amazed by the experience when I show them, look, no ads. But then they go back to their phones and just use whatever crap they use. I was hoping that the EU directive [1] would give FF a chance of using their own engine, at least in the EU, but no word from that camp, so... I guess not. 1. https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engines/ https://developer.apple.com/support/alternative-browser-engi...
  - PeakKS 1y ago
    There is some activity in the mozilla bugzilla related to the gecko ios port, who knows when anything will be usable though.
JohnTHaller 1y ago
It has uBlock Origin Lite. That's the same thing Chrome on desktop has. It's not real uBlock Origin and far less powerful.

snielson 1y ago

Ublock origin can be installed in Edge mobile.

EasyMark 1y ago
ublock origin or ublock lite?
- pyxelr 1y ago
  Both of them can be installed.
esperent 1y ago
Do you still need to set a config flag for extensions to work?

EasyMark 1y ago

Brave offers basically the same level of ad blocking including on ios

sshine 1y ago
Orion by Kagi ships with adblock on iOS in the EU, at least, where Apple is required by law to allow for different browser engines. Firefox on mobile has had a crippling performance regression on excessive tabs twice in 3 years. I have it installed as a password service, but opening the app kills my iPhone.
PufPufPuf 1y ago
Yeah, but it also has bl*ckchain.
- port11 1y ago
  Which can be disabled.
- grigio 1y ago
  the blockch*in doesn't bite you