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I completely agree with you. And sometimes depending on the content it’s unreadable that’s for sure. But they must have an endgame. Maybe they get us used

I completely agree with you. And sometimes depending on the content it’s unreadable that’s for sure. But they must have an endgame. Maybe they get us used to the UI, users will complain and in 6 months will get used to it and in a year it’s forgotten & updated. Because if they have a new paradigm then it’s easier for them if people are already used to the UX I guess ?

MBCook 1y ago
I guess that’s my problem. At this point I don’t trust that they DO have an endgame. I think this WAS it and they just ignored all the problems. I’m sure we’ll all get used to it. Just like we got used to a lot of the problems that the iOS 7 redesign brought. But that doesn’t mean we’re actually moving forward and getting better. We seem to be finding new ways to get worse. You can look at screenshots of OS X 10.4 or 10.6 and they’re incredibly easy to read. They have good information density. You know what the controls are and things haven’t been hidden like scroll bars. Yeah there were excesses with iOS 6 and below. And the pixel perfect layout stuff was never going to be viable long-term as phones kept changing size every year or two. But you could tell what was a button and what wasn’t. You knew if something was just text or a field you could edit. We’ve lost that.
- shinycode 1y ago
  I agree, from all the directions to make their UX foundation evolve that’s the weirdest one. If they don’t have anything else that make sense for it all then it’s the start of the decline for them I guess. I hate android UX, I tried and I hate it, Samsung is the worst for me.
  - MBCook 1y ago
    I don’t have a ton of exposure to android but I wasn’t a fan of what I have used. I can’t remember if it was the Samsung version or not but it doesn’t really matter I don’t think I “think like” Google so I don’t think it will ever be a fit for me. Similarly I’m not a Windows fan. I used it for decades but I’m happier with the way the Mac works. I’ve used Linux, the various GUIs are fine and just like Windows I could live with them. But the Mac works better for me. So as they destroy both platforms I’m stuck with nowhere to go. It’s not like Windows is getting better. Though I would probably go to Linux first, just for the Unix guts.

MBCook 1y ago

I guess that’s my problem. At this point I don’t trust that they DO have an endgame. I think this WAS it and they just ignored all the problems. I’m sure we’ll all get used to it. Just like we got used to a lot of the problems that the iOS 7 redesign brought. But that doesn’t mean we’re actually moving forward and getting better. We seem to be finding new ways to get worse. You can look at screenshots of OS X 10.4 or 10.6 and they’re incredibly easy to read. They have good information density. You know what the controls are and things haven’t been hidden like scroll bars. Yeah there were excesses with iOS 6 and below. And the pixel perfect layout stuff was never going to be viable long-term as phones kept changing size every year or two. But you could tell what was a button and what wasn’t. You knew if something was just text or a field you could edit. We’ve lost that.

shinycode 1y ago
I agree, from all the directions to make their UX foundation evolve that’s the weirdest one. If they don’t have anything else that make sense for it all then it’s the start of the decline for them I guess. I hate android UX, I tried and I hate it, Samsung is the worst for me.
- MBCook 1y ago
  I don’t have a ton of exposure to android but I wasn’t a fan of what I have used. I can’t remember if it was the Samsung version or not but it doesn’t really matter I don’t think I “think like” Google so I don’t think it will ever be a fit for me. Similarly I’m not a Windows fan. I used it for decades but I’m happier with the way the Mac works. I’ve used Linux, the various GUIs are fine and just like Windows I could live with them. But the Mac works better for me. So as they destroy both platforms I’m stuck with nowhere to go. It’s not like Windows is getting better. Though I would probably go to Linux first, just for the Unix guts.