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If you just want tools that work/make it easy to build apps and websites with JS (and you want direct access to the guy building them), you may find what I buil

If you just want tools that work/make it easy to build apps and websites with JS (and you want direct access to the guy building them), you may find what I built after leaving React/Next interesting [1]. I built this because the creeping complexity and confusion of React's APIs combined with the stress of building a SaaS w/ Next.js became a giant ball of stress and time waste. Feel free to jump in the Discord [2] with any questions. [1] https://cheatcode.co/joystick https://cheatcode.co/joystick [2] http://discord.cheatcode.co http://discord.cheatcode.co

nonethewiser 1y ago
I find it immediately off-putting that a I'd choose a framework based on whether or not I'm building a SaaS. Maybe it streamlines certain things but the lock-in to the frameworks set of features and way of doing things feels like a bad decision.
- rglover 1y ago
  A SaaS is just the focus but it can build plain websites just fine. IMO, it streamlines everything. But people have to get out of their own way and try it—not form surface-level opinions from a quick scroll. I'm actually shocked how few people will even try it. They sit and bitch about React/Next, but when someone offers a solution, they poo poo it (usually for superficial reasons) and then go back to suffering. Joystick is for developers who are tired of that cycle and just want to build something that just works (and they actually understand why it works). Honestly, I'm surprised more people don't trust my way of doing things and continue to walk on to the kill floor that is corporate and VC-backed tech.
  - nonethewiser 1y ago
    That's why I framed it as my immediate reaction. Of course 99.9% of people who read your comment aren't going to just go try it. It's totally fair to react to the elevator pitch.
    - rglover 1y ago
      It's fair, but it's also doing you a disservice.
mb2100 1y ago
Welcome to the club! I built https://mastrojs.github.io https://mastrojs.github.io after finding both Next.js and Astro to be too complex for my simple needs.

nonethewiser 1y ago

I find it immediately off-putting that a I'd choose a framework based on whether or not I'm building a SaaS. Maybe it streamlines certain things but the lock-in to the frameworks set of features and way of doing things feels like a bad decision.

rglover 1y ago
A SaaS is just the focus but it can build plain websites just fine. IMO, it streamlines everything. But people have to get out of their own way and try it—not form surface-level opinions from a quick scroll. I'm actually shocked how few people will even try it. They sit and bitch about React/Next, but when someone offers a solution, they poo poo it (usually for superficial reasons) and then go back to suffering. Joystick is for developers who are tired of that cycle and just want to build something that just works (and they actually understand why it works). Honestly, I'm surprised more people don't trust my way of doing things and continue to walk on to the kill floor that is corporate and VC-backed tech.
- nonethewiser 1y ago
  That's why I framed it as my immediate reaction. Of course 99.9% of people who read your comment aren't going to just go try it. It's totally fair to react to the elevator pitch.
  - rglover 1y ago
    It's fair, but it's also doing you a disservice.

mb2100 1y ago

Welcome to the club! I built https://mastrojs.github.io https://mastrojs.github.io after finding both Next.js and Astro to be too complex for my simple needs.