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> Meanwhile the only issues I had were needing to solder a resistor onto the motherboard to resolve some issue You and I must have a different idea of "fire an

> Meanwhile the only issues I had were needing to solder a resistor onto the motherboard to resolve some issue You and I must have a different idea of "fire and forget." I've been running my NAS on a generic Dell running stock Debian for over a decade now, and I've never had to get the soldering iron out to maintain it!

jghn 1y ago
Agreed. it was a pretty freak issue, albeit one that had a well known fix. I stated it here in full disclosure and did state that this was beyond what most people would consider tolerable. And I'll admit that I came very close to throwing it in the garbage and buying a new one. Still, other than replacing old drives, something that'd happen regardless of solution, that's the only fiddling I ever had to do.
yoyohello13 1y ago
As another anecdote, I've had a cheap Synology NAS for 6yrs now and I only really touch it once a year to make sure everything is up to date.
Lammy 1y ago
That was almost certainly the Intel Avoton clock degradation issue. It hit Cisco and lots of other networking vendors too. I lost Supermicro and ASRock boards to the same thing. Soldering on the resistor gets the CLK circuit back into spec for a while, but I had an officially-repaired board eventually fail again in the same way after a few more years since it keeps degrading. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13585048 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13585048 https://www.auvik.com/franklyit/blog/vendors-clock-signal-flaw-intel-atom-c2000/ https://www.auvik.com/franklyit/blog/vendors-clock-signal-fl...
- jghn 1y ago
  That's a good reminder, I forgot about it being temporary. Looks like it was ~6 years before the initial failure, and it's been ~4 years since. I should start investigating potential migration paths that would allow me to do a HDD migration as that would be ideal. Although it looks like that might be a pain due to some of their OS-level limitations.
  - Lammy 1y ago
    I swapped my dead C2750 (Supermicro A1SAi-2750F) board for my cold-spare C3558 (A2SDi-4C-HLN4F) and was right back running again. I guess if you're talking about an appliance it's a little different, but this was just my home firewall/router FreeBSD+PF+Jails machine. And actually a good reminder for me to eBay up another cold spare, because I totally forgot to.

jghn 1y ago

Agreed. it was a pretty freak issue, albeit one that had a well known fix. I stated it here in full disclosure and did state that this was beyond what most people would consider tolerable. And I'll admit that I came very close to throwing it in the garbage and buying a new one. Still, other than replacing old drives, something that'd happen regardless of solution, that's the only fiddling I ever had to do.

yoyohello13 1y ago

As another anecdote, I've had a cheap Synology NAS for 6yrs now and I only really touch it once a year to make sure everything is up to date.

Lammy 1y ago

That was almost certainly the Intel Avoton clock degradation issue. It hit Cisco and lots of other networking vendors too. I lost Supermicro and ASRock boards to the same thing. Soldering on the resistor gets the CLK circuit back into spec for a while, but I had an officially-repaired board eventually fail again in the same way after a few more years since it keeps degrading. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13585048 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13585048 https://www.auvik.com/franklyit/blog/vendors-clock-signal-flaw-intel-atom-c2000/ https://www.auvik.com/franklyit/blog/vendors-clock-signal-fl...

jghn 1y ago
That's a good reminder, I forgot about it being temporary. Looks like it was ~6 years before the initial failure, and it's been ~4 years since. I should start investigating potential migration paths that would allow me to do a HDD migration as that would be ideal. Although it looks like that might be a pain due to some of their OS-level limitations.
- Lammy 1y ago
  I swapped my dead C2750 (Supermicro A1SAi-2750F) board for my cold-spare C3558 (A2SDi-4C-HLN4F) and was right back running again. I guess if you're talking about an appliance it's a little different, but this was just my home firewall/router FreeBSD+PF+Jails machine. And actually a good reminder for me to eBay up another cold spare, because I totally forgot to.