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I did until they killed port forwarding.

by Dylan16807 1y ago

bilegeek 1y ago
OOC what's your current favored provider? AirVPN? Proton?
- octo888 1y ago
  I tried Airvpn but the MacOS client is beyond trash. And the website just gives 2005 amateur PHP coder vibes. Not just the design. The session expiry is seems very long - I hadn't visited for a few days and I'm still logged in. I'd be surprised if it wasn't infinite.
  - mk89 1y ago
    On Mac you can just use OpenVPN/Wireguard and import one of the profiles you can generate through their website.
    - octo888 1y ago
      Not for feature parity. And I find there's a good correlation between the quality of the apps and the overall quality of the company. No surprise that the Mullvad VPN app is excellent
  - baobun 1y ago
    For multiple reasons it's better and safer to avoid using official provider client in the first place, regardless of provider, and connect with a good wireguard/openvpn/whatever client.
    - octo888 1y ago
      Not universally true. The Mullvad client has lots of additional features to enhance privacy. Killswitch, split tunnelling (you might otherwise disconnect the VPN to use a certain app, so it can overall improve privacy), Shadowsocks, Lockdown mode etc It's extremely high quality on MacOS in my experience. It's never crashed for example whereas Airvpn's crashes daily. It connects almost instantly. I don't think I've ever seen it give an error
  - MezzoDelCammin 1y ago
    AirVPNs main proposition isn't "we have a nice app / UX". It's "we give you the most configs / options". AFAIK they're currently one of very few that allow you to configure both port forwards and give you a stable config (keys) to run your own wireguard instance
- 201984 1y ago
  Proton for me.
- Dylan16807 1y ago
  Proton right now. It's okay but it causes some network issues even when it's set to split tunnel default-exclude.
mystraline 1y ago
Yep. And I was on Proton for 3y, until the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places. Their port forwarding was also painful as well, but it worked. Cancelled. PIA does the port forwarding nicely and stabily. No jank scripts to run every 60 seconds. Now evidently PIA is a bunch of scum capitalists. But in reality, who isn't? Mullvad? But they killed port forwarding for "abuse".
- 0points 1y ago
  > the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places Something happened, but THAT didn't. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-tr...
  - ashirviskas 1y ago
    > Given Proton’s outstanding track record and reputation thus far as a free, open-source, crowdfunded organization, owned by a non-profit and based in Switzerland (a country known for its neutrality), this topic is worth a deep dive. Either it was someone paid to write this, or if author really believes this, they are not someone I trust. Maybe the organization is non-profit (which I do not believe is practically true), it does not explain them sharing so much with Tesonet.
- subtextminer 1y ago
  The Proton CEO is not "backing Trump and Vance." He wrote something positive about a narrow policy Trump supported that's favorable to little tech over big tech. That's it. It's certainly possible that someone you detest can still occasionally support a particular policy you think is good.
  - saurik 1y ago
    Particularly when dealing with someone like Trump, who has, on occasion, backed both sides of an issue, depending on the day of the week! ;P

I did until they killed port forwarding.

bilegeek 1y ago

OOC what's your current favored provider? AirVPN? Proton?

octo888 1y ago
I tried Airvpn but the MacOS client is beyond trash. And the website just gives 2005 amateur PHP coder vibes. Not just the design. The session expiry is seems very long - I hadn't visited for a few days and I'm still logged in. I'd be surprised if it wasn't infinite.
- mk89 1y ago
  On Mac you can just use OpenVPN/Wireguard and import one of the profiles you can generate through their website.
  - octo888 1y ago
    Not for feature parity. And I find there's a good correlation between the quality of the apps and the overall quality of the company. No surprise that the Mullvad VPN app is excellent
- baobun 1y ago
  For multiple reasons it's better and safer to avoid using official provider client in the first place, regardless of provider, and connect with a good wireguard/openvpn/whatever client.
  - octo888 1y ago
    Not universally true. The Mullvad client has lots of additional features to enhance privacy. Killswitch, split tunnelling (you might otherwise disconnect the VPN to use a certain app, so it can overall improve privacy), Shadowsocks, Lockdown mode etc It's extremely high quality on MacOS in my experience. It's never crashed for example whereas Airvpn's crashes daily. It connects almost instantly. I don't think I've ever seen it give an error
- MezzoDelCammin 1y ago
  AirVPNs main proposition isn't "we have a nice app / UX". It's "we give you the most configs / options". AFAIK they're currently one of very few that allow you to configure both port forwards and give you a stable config (keys) to run your own wireguard instance
201984 1y ago
Proton for me.
Dylan16807 1y ago
Proton right now. It's okay but it causes some network issues even when it's set to split tunnel default-exclude.

mystraline 1y ago

Yep. And I was on Proton for 3y, until the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places. Their port forwarding was also painful as well, but it worked. Cancelled. PIA does the port forwarding nicely and stabily. No jank scripts to run every 60 seconds. Now evidently PIA is a bunch of scum capitalists. But in reality, who isn't? Mullvad? But they killed port forwarding for "abuse".

0points 1y ago
> the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places Something happened, but THAT didn't. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-tr...
- ashirviskas 1y ago
  > Given Proton’s outstanding track record and reputation thus far as a free, open-source, crowdfunded organization, owned by a non-profit and based in Switzerland (a country known for its neutrality), this topic is worth a deep dive. Either it was someone paid to write this, or if author really believes this, they are not someone I trust. Maybe the organization is non-profit (which I do not believe is practically true), it does not explain them sharing so much with Tesonet.
subtextminer 1y ago
The Proton CEO is not "backing Trump and Vance." He wrote something positive about a narrow policy Trump supported that's favorable to little tech over big tech. That's it. It's certainly possible that someone you detest can still occasionally support a particular policy you think is good.
- saurik 1y ago
  Particularly when dealing with someone like Trump, who has, on occasion, backed both sides of an issue, depending on the day of the week! ;P