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As a JS developer for over 10 years who has seen multiple hype waves, here is my advice: You don't need to ride the first wave. You can wait until technology ma

by jampa 1y ago

As a JS developer for over 10 years who has seen multiple hype waves, here is my advice: You don't need to ride the first wave. You can wait until technology matures and see if it has staying power. For example, React and TypeScript were hard to set up initially. I deferred learning them for years until the tooling improved and they were clearly here to stay. Likewise, I'm glad I didn't dive into tech like LangChain and CoffeeScript, which came and went.

pyuser583 1y ago
LangChain has gone? I thought it was still around.
- jampa 1y ago
  It's still around, but the hype has faded. Users discovered numerous issues with the project and began abandoning it. I remember one month when everyone was all, "LangChain is the future," and another month when the sentiment became: "LangChain is terrible." You can see the hype cycle's timeline in HN's Algolia search: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=Langchain&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- ajcp 1y ago
  It is but I feel it's main value prop as a developer friendly abstraction layer has been very well solved for by the actual model providers themselves, while LangChain itself have become more bloated, clunky, and to under-opinionated.
awesome_dude 1y ago
This is how I feel about Rust. The big hype wave has finished now (we still have the "how dare you criticise our technology bros" roaming around though), the tooling is maturing now. It's almost time for me to actually get my feet wet with it :)
asimovDev 1y ago
when did that happen for you with React? 10 years ago was 2015 right around the time it started getting popular if I remember correctly (I wasn't a professional yet back then) so I am curious what was the point at which you decided the tooling improved. As a still junior dev I would love to know how to see determine things like that
brazukadev 1y ago
10 years ago React was actually much simpler and easier (and faster) than today

by jampa 1y ago

pyuser583 1y ago

LangChain has gone? I thought it was still around.

jampa 1y ago
It's still around, but the hype has faded. Users discovered numerous issues with the project and began abandoning it. I remember one month when everyone was all, "LangChain is the future," and another month when the sentiment became: "LangChain is terrible." You can see the hype cycle's timeline in HN's Algolia search: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=Langchain&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
ajcp 1y ago
It is but I feel it's main value prop as a developer friendly abstraction layer has been very well solved for by the actual model providers themselves, while LangChain itself have become more bloated, clunky, and to under-opinionated.

awesome_dude 1y ago

This is how I feel about Rust. The big hype wave has finished now (we still have the "how dare you criticise our technology bros" roaming around though), the tooling is maturing now. It's almost time for me to actually get my feet wet with it :)

asimovDev 1y ago

when did that happen for you with React? 10 years ago was 2015 right around the time it started getting popular if I remember correctly (I wasn't a professional yet back then) so I am curious what was the point at which you decided the tooling improved. As a still junior dev I would love to know how to see determine things like that

brazukadev 1y ago

10 years ago React was actually much simpler and easier (and faster) than today