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NYC has roughly the same stats - 40% of the residents there are foreign-born. This is more to do with low birth rates by natives, so population growth in NYC an

NYC has roughly the same stats - 40% of the residents there are foreign-born. This is more to do with low birth rates by natives, so population growth in NYC and London is entirely driven by immigration. The biggest problem is that it's too expensive for most people to have and raise kids in major cities. What was more troubling to me was that he called the Tommy Robinson rallies "heartwarming". TR was a member of an explicitly fascist, white nationalist party. The rallies were full of signs calling for death to Muslims. Or, in the same blog post, his disproven claims of migrant gang r*pes. On top of that, he has written some really vile things about transgender people. I would like to go to a tech conference and focus on Ruby, not politics. I'd like to leave my identity home and discuss software engineering and interesting technical ideas. DHH has made that impossible.

IshKebab 1y ago
> he has written some other really vile things about transgender people. Do you have a link? I suspect these "really vile things" will turn out to be not so vile (like JKR), just things you don't agree with. > I'd like to leave my identity home and discuss software engineering and interesting technical ideas. DHH has made that impossible. Really? Did he talk about politics at this Ruby conference? Seems like it is you that can't focus on Ruby.
- phoronixrly 1y ago
  https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    Couldn't find anything there, can you be more specific?
- soraminazuki 1y ago
  > I suspect these "really vile things" will turn out to be not so vile (like JKR) "Not so vile" things like spreading lies about a female Olymics Boxer's gender, calling her terrible names, and inciting her online followers to harass her? She not only bullies transgender individuals but also targets other women who don't meet her own standards of femininity. If you have no problems with people like that, no wonder you can't fathom why the Ruby community has trouble accepting similar people with open arms.
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    Again, link? It's no good just talking about what heinous things someone has done. That kind of talk is always incredibly unreliable.
    - soraminazuki 1y ago
      Evidence for thee, but not for me? You write with such authority on this topic, yet you insist on demanding evidence for even the most basic knowledge surrounding it. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2njjm4e2po https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2njjm4e2po https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1931144695771435140 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1931144695771435140 Also, on another note, here's one of her many posts from JKR literally equating trans women with sexual predators. https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 It's astonishing how far some people will go to defend this kind of dehumanization of fellow human beings.
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      - bobalob 1y ago
        > Also, here's one of her many posts from JKR literally equating trans women with sexual predators. > https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 Consider what this conversation was actually about - a male sexual predator, caught pleasuring himself in the showers attached to a girls' changing room, who claimed, when caught, to have a female gender identity: https://xcancel.com/KatieDR96/status/1972050074227429663 https://xcancel.com/KatieDR96/status/1972050074227429663
        soraminazuki 1y ago
        Setting aside that you're passing claims from a far-right troll as facts, that still doesn’t make it acceptable to equate trans women with sexual predators, both morally and logically. Or are you suggesting that if you can find one male sexual predator, it justifies equating all males with predators? I have a feeling you’d be up in arms about that. Anyways, it's clear that you're intent on dehumanizing others, even creating a new account for the sole purpose of saying the most vile things, so I'll stop replying here.
sad-pack 1y ago
"I care about Ruby and want it to die…” “I try to discourage them because I don’t want more Ruby code in the world…” I wouldn't bother replying to that account, it's not arguing in good faith. Ishkebab has stated many times its goal is to kill ruby and its community. It's commenting here to stir things up. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847
- IshKebab 1y ago
  > It's commenting here to stir things up. I'm not. It's true that I dislike Ruby and prefer everyone would abandon it, but that's orthogonal to the issue we're discussing. In fact I'm saying that the Ruby community is being stupid and shooting themselves in the foot by characterizing relatively mainstream right wing views as "extremism". If I was being disingenuous I should really encourage this schism! > It Dunno if you're a native English speaker or not but the normal way to refer to someone of unknown gender is "they". "It" is offensive.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
    > relatively mainstream This doesn't preclude extreme. Not commenting on whether the community's is shooting themselves in the foot or not, just that the reason provided is not a good one for believing so. > If I was being disingenuous I should really encourage this schism! I do not think that you are necessarily being disingenuous but misunderstanding the difference of opinion in this way actually seems to encourage said schism.
    - IshKebab 1y ago
      > This doesn't preclude extreme. Uhm yeah it literally does. Mainstream views can't be extreme by definition. You might not agree with them, but that's a different thing. > misunderstanding the difference of opinion in this way I haven't misunderstood anything.
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IshKebab 1y ago

> he has written some other really vile things about transgender people. Do you have a link? I suspect these "really vile things" will turn out to be not so vile (like JKR), just things you don't agree with. > I'd like to leave my identity home and discuss software engineering and interesting technical ideas. DHH has made that impossible. Really? Did he talk about politics at this Ruby conference? Seems like it is you that can't focus on Ruby.

phoronixrly 1y ago
https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem https://tomstu.art/the-dhh-problem
- IshKebab 1y ago
  Couldn't find anything there, can you be more specific?
soraminazuki 1y ago
> I suspect these "really vile things" will turn out to be not so vile (like JKR) "Not so vile" things like spreading lies about a female Olymics Boxer's gender, calling her terrible names, and inciting her online followers to harass her? She not only bullies transgender individuals but also targets other women who don't meet her own standards of femininity. If you have no problems with people like that, no wonder you can't fathom why the Ruby community has trouble accepting similar people with open arms.
- IshKebab 1y ago
  Again, link? It's no good just talking about what heinous things someone has done. That kind of talk is always incredibly unreliable.
  - soraminazuki 1y ago
    Evidence for thee, but not for me? You write with such authority on this topic, yet you insist on demanding evidence for even the most basic knowledge surrounding it. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2njjm4e2po https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2njjm4e2po https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1931144695771435140 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1931144695771435140 Also, on another note, here's one of her many posts from JKR literally equating trans women with sexual predators. https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 It's astonishing how far some people will go to defend this kind of dehumanization of fellow human beings.
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    - bobalob 1y ago
      > Also, here's one of her many posts from JKR literally equating trans women with sexual predators. > https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 https://xcancel.com/jk_rowling/status/1972054407148695732 Consider what this conversation was actually about - a male sexual predator, caught pleasuring himself in the showers attached to a girls' changing room, who claimed, when caught, to have a female gender identity: https://xcancel.com/KatieDR96/status/1972050074227429663 https://xcancel.com/KatieDR96/status/1972050074227429663
      - soraminazuki 1y ago
        Setting aside that you're passing claims from a far-right troll as facts, that still doesn’t make it acceptable to equate trans women with sexual predators, both morally and logically. Or are you suggesting that if you can find one male sexual predator, it justifies equating all males with predators? I have a feeling you’d be up in arms about that. Anyways, it's clear that you're intent on dehumanizing others, even creating a new account for the sole purpose of saying the most vile things, so I'll stop replying here.

sad-pack 1y ago

"I care about Ruby and want it to die…” “I try to discourage them because I don’t want more Ruby code in the world…” I wouldn't bother replying to that account, it's not arguing in good faith. Ishkebab has stated many times its goal is to kill ruby and its community. It's commenting here to stir things up. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43331847

IshKebab 1y ago
> It's commenting here to stir things up. I'm not. It's true that I dislike Ruby and prefer everyone would abandon it, but that's orthogonal to the issue we're discussing. In fact I'm saying that the Ruby community is being stupid and shooting themselves in the foot by characterizing relatively mainstream right wing views as "extremism". If I was being disingenuous I should really encourage this schism! > It Dunno if you're a native English speaker or not but the normal way to refer to someone of unknown gender is "they". "It" is offensive.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  > relatively mainstream This doesn't preclude extreme. Not commenting on whether the community's is shooting themselves in the foot or not, just that the reason provided is not a good one for believing so. > If I was being disingenuous I should really encourage this schism! I do not think that you are necessarily being disingenuous but misunderstanding the difference of opinion in this way actually seems to encourage said schism.
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    > This doesn't preclude extreme. Uhm yeah it literally does. Mainstream views can't be extreme by definition. You might not agree with them, but that's a different thing. > misunderstanding the difference of opinion in this way I haven't misunderstood anything.
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