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>If women feel like it is no longer safe to marry because they will be forced into equal custody The word choice of your comment is beyond absurd and your usua

>If women feel like it is no longer safe to marry because they will be forced into equal custody The word choice of your comment is beyond absurd and your usual schtick of cherry picking links to back up your point doesn't make it any less absurd. It's mostly men who don't wanna get married and/or start a family and do all that stuff because (in states that have yet to reform their laws) they stand to lose half their shit and not even have half a kid to show for it. I have zero sympathy for people, of any gender, for whom not being on the favorable end of unequal treatment in divorce/custody is the marginal difference that makes them not get married.

toomuchtodo 1y ago
I don’t believe my citations are wrong, nor that they’re out of context as it relates to demographic trends, but you’re free to provide your own if you have them. Additional citations below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UThiu3Q_NcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UThiu3Q_NcQ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/poll-traditional-family-gender-roles/ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/poll-traditional-family-gender-... https://19thnews.org/2025/09/polling-2025/ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/polling-2025/
- potato3732842 1y ago
  Its not your citations that are wrong, regardless of quality or bias I'm sure they back up your opinion. It's your opinion that I take issue with.
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    Your thoughts of my opinions and mental models are irrelevant to me, but of course you’re free to comment as much as you’d like and mods will allow. I take no offense because I do not care, and no offense is intended in informing.
    - Nervhq 1y ago
      You're irrelevant to everything
      - toomuchtodo 1y ago
        Strongly agree, we all are.
        potato3732842 1y ago
        I was honored that you featured me as "ignore" in your profile for the short time it lasted.
bryanlarsen 1y ago
> It's mostly men who don't wanna get married and/or start a family and do all that stuff because (in states that have yet to reform their laws) they stand to lose half their shit and not even have half a kid to show for it. > I have zero sympathy for people, of any gender, for whom not being on the favorable end of unequal treatment in divorce/custody is the marginal difference that makes them not get married. I guess you have zero sympathy for a large chunk of men then, because first you say that men don't get married because they lose their stuff in a divorce, and then you say that you have zero sympathy for people who don't get married because of it.
- MarkusQ 1y ago
  Simply on semantic grounds, this is an unreasonable conclusion. "I will not do X unless I am given an unfair advantage" is not at all the same as "I will not do X if the system is unfairly biased against me".
- bobsmooth 1y ago
  Where's the contradiction? No sympathy for those that don't marry, sympathy for those that do.
- saghm 1y ago
  "I would get married but I don't trust my potential spouse not to screw me over" is just not something that requires sympathy. If that's how someone feels, it's probably better for everyone (them, their spouse, and society as a whole) that they don't get married. There's no virtue in being married without a strong basis of mutual trust, nor is there any shame in remaining unmarried because you haven't found someone right for you
  - spwa4 1y ago
    Oh don't worry. That's what "de-facto" relationship legislation is for. https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/fl/pubs/defacto https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/fl/pubs/defacto You can now be forced to pay child support - including for kids that aren't your own kids - without ever being married. There are people who'll do anything for money. Some of those people are women, and occasionally a man succeeds at this too. Children are a way to extract large amounts of money over time from partners. The state cooperates with this practice because the state will be on the hook otherwise.

toomuchtodo 1y ago

I don’t believe my citations are wrong, nor that they’re out of context as it relates to demographic trends, but you’re free to provide your own if you have them. Additional citations below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UThiu3Q_NcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UThiu3Q_NcQ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/poll-traditional-family-gender-roles/ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/poll-traditional-family-gender-... https://19thnews.org/2025/09/polling-2025/ https://19thnews.org/2025/09/polling-2025/

potato3732842 1y ago
Its not your citations that are wrong, regardless of quality or bias I'm sure they back up your opinion. It's your opinion that I take issue with.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  Your thoughts of my opinions and mental models are irrelevant to me, but of course you’re free to comment as much as you’d like and mods will allow. I take no offense because I do not care, and no offense is intended in informing.
  - Nervhq 1y ago
    You're irrelevant to everything
    - toomuchtodo 1y ago
      Strongly agree, we all are.
      - potato3732842 1y ago
        I was honored that you featured me as "ignore" in your profile for the short time it lasted.

bryanlarsen 1y ago

> It's mostly men who don't wanna get married and/or start a family and do all that stuff because (in states that have yet to reform their laws) they stand to lose half their shit and not even have half a kid to show for it. > I have zero sympathy for people, of any gender, for whom not being on the favorable end of unequal treatment in divorce/custody is the marginal difference that makes them not get married. I guess you have zero sympathy for a large chunk of men then, because first you say that men don't get married because they lose their stuff in a divorce, and then you say that you have zero sympathy for people who don't get married because of it.

MarkusQ 1y ago
Simply on semantic grounds, this is an unreasonable conclusion. "I will not do X unless I am given an unfair advantage" is not at all the same as "I will not do X if the system is unfairly biased against me".
bobsmooth 1y ago
Where's the contradiction? No sympathy for those that don't marry, sympathy for those that do.
saghm 1y ago
"I would get married but I don't trust my potential spouse not to screw me over" is just not something that requires sympathy. If that's how someone feels, it's probably better for everyone (them, their spouse, and society as a whole) that they don't get married. There's no virtue in being married without a strong basis of mutual trust, nor is there any shame in remaining unmarried because you haven't found someone right for you
- spwa4 1y ago
  Oh don't worry. That's what "de-facto" relationship legislation is for. https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/fl/pubs/defacto https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/fl/pubs/defacto You can now be forced to pay child support - including for kids that aren't your own kids - without ever being married. There are people who'll do anything for money. Some of those people are women, and occasionally a man succeeds at this too. Children are a way to extract large amounts of money over time from partners. The state cooperates with this practice because the state will be on the hook otherwise.