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Yeah, I've not seen any actual porn either. Just thirst traps. It might be because I always block anyone with an OF link in their bio, but then that policy doe

Yeah, I've not seen any actual porn either. Just thirst traps. It might be because I always block anyone with an OF link in their bio, but then that policy doesn't work on Insta.

ivape 1y ago
You think thirst traps are okay for kids? If we rewind time, the Girls Gone Wild commercial is not supposed to be even remotely possible on certain channels. We’re a derelict society that has become numb, “it’s just a thirst trap”. We’re in the later innings of a hyper-sexualized society. Why it’s bad: 1) You shift male puberty into overdrive 2) You continue warping young female concepts of lewdness and body image, effectively “undefining” it (lewdness? What is lewdness?). 3) You also continue warping male concepts of body image
- School-Cotton 1y ago
  When did anyone say it was okay? You’re reading something into the comment that isn’t there.
  - ivape 1y ago
    I read into this sentence: “Just thirst trap” (And you see the word I read into). Right. No, I get it. Listen, we collectively have the issue of not recognizing the significance of things. Nothing personal.
- Hizonner 1y ago
  > You think thirst traps are okay for kids? Yes. Promoting vaping, not so much. > We’re in the later innings of a hyper-sexualized society. O NOES! I mean, that's a ridiculous thing to say, but if it were true, so what?
  - ivape 1y ago
    No one can scroll through my shit and get vape content. But granted, I am a walking vape ad with the name, touché. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I regret this name honestly, as there are a lot of high school and college aged people here.
    - philipkglass 1y ago
      You can email hn@ycombinator.com and request a name change if you don't like the connotations of your current name. Dan and Tom will rename accounts for people.
- hackinthebochs 1y ago
  Kids as in under 18 teenagers? Yeah sure, why not?
  - lupusreal 1y ago
    Because parasocial relationships with ewhores isn't healthy, particularly at a stage in their life when they should be forming real relationships with their peers.
    - gjsman-1000 1y ago
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      - dogleash 1y ago
        It's goalpost shifting. If the concern is parasocail relationships to content creators formed with pornography as the hook, then pornographic content where the actors aren't cultivating or interacting with a social media followerbase should be better, right?
        gjsman-1000 1y ago
        Do I care when both are dangerously stupid to hook kids on?
      - good8675309 1y ago
        These people come out of the woodwork, when it comes to defending porn. It’s their whole identity. And unfortunately the tech scene is infested with these types.
      - bigyabai 1y ago
        Then support them. Too often you show up to scream "think of the children" without actually citing any research or empirical damage. If you refuse to argue in good faith and don't want to be told you're wrong, voting is the only thing you're capable of doing. Don't tell us about it, vote. Everyone knows those laws do nothing, though; go look at the countries that pass them. Kids share pornography P2P, they burn porno to CDs and VHS tapes and bring in pornographic magazines to school. They AirDrop pornographic contents to their friends and visit websites with pornography on them too. Worst-case scenario, they create a secondary market for illegal pornography because they'll be punished regardless - which quickly becomes a vehicle for creating CSAM and other truly reprehensible materials. They don't do it because they're misogynistic, mentally vulnerable or lack perspective - they do it because they're horny. Every kid who aspires to be an adult inherently exists on a collision course with sexual autonomy, most people realize it during puberty. If you frustrate their process of interacting with adulthood, you get socially stunted creeps who can't respond to adult concepts.
- gadders 1y ago
  No, I don't think Thirst Traps are necessarily OK, but it's a fine line, and given current gym/athletic wear it's not always easy to discern what is actually a genuine (say) workout video vs a trap.

Yeah, I've not seen any actual porn either. Just thirst traps. It might be because I always block anyone with an OF link in their bio, but then that policy doesn't work on Insta.

ivape 1y ago

You think thirst traps are okay for kids? If we rewind time, the Girls Gone Wild commercial is not supposed to be even remotely possible on certain channels. We’re a derelict society that has become numb, “it’s just a thirst trap”. We’re in the later innings of a hyper-sexualized society. Why it’s bad: 1) You shift male puberty into overdrive 2) You continue warping young female concepts of lewdness and body image, effectively “undefining” it (lewdness? What is lewdness?). 3) You also continue warping male concepts of body image

School-Cotton 1y ago
When did anyone say it was okay? You’re reading something into the comment that isn’t there.
- ivape 1y ago
  I read into this sentence: “Just thirst trap” (And you see the word I read into). Right. No, I get it. Listen, we collectively have the issue of not recognizing the significance of things. Nothing personal.
Hizonner 1y ago
> You think thirst traps are okay for kids? Yes. Promoting vaping, not so much. > We’re in the later innings of a hyper-sexualized society. O NOES! I mean, that's a ridiculous thing to say, but if it were true, so what?
- ivape 1y ago
  No one can scroll through my shit and get vape content. But granted, I am a walking vape ad with the name, touché. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I regret this name honestly, as there are a lot of high school and college aged people here.
  - philipkglass 1y ago
    You can email hn@ycombinator.com and request a name change if you don't like the connotations of your current name. Dan and Tom will rename accounts for people.
hackinthebochs 1y ago
Kids as in under 18 teenagers? Yeah sure, why not?
- lupusreal 1y ago
  Because parasocial relationships with ewhores isn't healthy, particularly at a stage in their life when they should be forming real relationships with their peers.
  - gjsman-1000 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - dogleash 1y ago
      It's goalpost shifting. If the concern is parasocail relationships to content creators formed with pornography as the hook, then pornographic content where the actors aren't cultivating or interacting with a social media followerbase should be better, right?
      - gjsman-1000 1y ago
        Do I care when both are dangerously stupid to hook kids on?
    - good8675309 1y ago
      These people come out of the woodwork, when it comes to defending porn. It’s their whole identity. And unfortunately the tech scene is infested with these types.
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      Then support them. Too often you show up to scream "think of the children" without actually citing any research or empirical damage. If you refuse to argue in good faith and don't want to be told you're wrong, voting is the only thing you're capable of doing. Don't tell us about it, vote. Everyone knows those laws do nothing, though; go look at the countries that pass them. Kids share pornography P2P, they burn porno to CDs and VHS tapes and bring in pornographic magazines to school. They AirDrop pornographic contents to their friends and visit websites with pornography on them too. Worst-case scenario, they create a secondary market for illegal pornography because they'll be punished regardless - which quickly becomes a vehicle for creating CSAM and other truly reprehensible materials. They don't do it because they're misogynistic, mentally vulnerable or lack perspective - they do it because they're horny. Every kid who aspires to be an adult inherently exists on a collision course with sexual autonomy, most people realize it during puberty. If you frustrate their process of interacting with adulthood, you get socially stunted creeps who can't respond to adult concepts.
gadders 1y ago
No, I don't think Thirst Traps are necessarily OK, but it's a fine line, and given current gym/athletic wear it's not always easy to discern what is actually a genuine (say) workout video vs a trap.