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Europe is buying billions of Russian gas and petrochemicals. https://energyandcleanair.org/financing-putins-war/ https://energyandcleanair.org/financing-putins
by blargthorwars 1y ago
Europe is buying billions of Russian gas and petrochemicals.
https://energyandcleanair.org/financing-putins-war/ https://energyandcleanair.org/financing-putins-war/
The first step when finding yourself in a hole is to stop digging.
- lazide 1y agoThe beauty of having your opponent in hole when you own both the shovel and the ladder, is they can’t figure out how to stop digging.
- scotty79 1y agoWhat part of this is Hungary and such?
- slaw 1y agoThat is mostly Germany. Once Germany stops buying oil from Russia other countries will be forced to stop too.
- mafribe 1y agoCould you give some evidence for this claim? Here is some counterevidence: [1] says that the top buyers of Russian energy include: • Hungary: 416 million euros ($488m) • Slovakia: 275 million euros ($323m) • France: 157 million euros ($184m) • Netherlands: 65 million euros ($76m) • Belgium: 64 million euros ($75m) [2] suggests that China and India are the main buyers. I don't how reliable those sources are. There is also the problem of how to classify 'laundered' oil that was bought and resold by, e.g. India. [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/3/how-much-of-europes-oil-and-gas-still-comes-from-russia https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/3/how-much-of-europes... [2] https://energyandcleanair.org/june-2025-monthly-analysis-of-russian-fossil-fuel-exports-and-sanctions/ https://energyandcleanair.org/june-2025-monthly-analysis-of-...
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- slaw 1y agoLooks like I have old data. Germany stopped buying officially oil from Russia. We will see now pressure on other countries to follow.
- CamelCaseName 1y agoExcept they can't. Europe is struggling with soaring energy costs and a lack of alternatives. Whether it's red tape or unfortunate geography, Europe cannot afford to turn off the Russian gas tap. A benevolent US would see this and find ways to bridge the gap for Europe and lower its energy costs, further choking Russia. A less benevolent US would see this and encourage it to continue, weakening both parties and sowing internal feuds within Europe.
- fastball 1y agoFeels kinda like you're removing Europe's agency here. "Red tape" is just another way of saying "terrible policy decisions for decades". If they dug themselves into a hole before, what's to stop them from doing it again when after you help them fill in the hole a little bit?
- 1718627440 1y agoWestern and Central Europe has been dependent of Eastern Europe for centuries. This doesn't change just when a dictator owns these lands.
- fastball 1y agoFrance made great strides towards energy independence until they started to walk back nuclear.
- whiplash451 1y agoBecause it takes decades to stop digging a hole you've taken decades to dig. It's not like we can make dozens of nuclear power plants appear out of thin air.
- dgfitz 1y agoBest time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is today. What is the plan today?
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- saubeidl 1y agoThis is what Wendelstein and Iter are for. It's still gonna take a bit, unfortunately. In the meantime, all we can do is continue renewable buildout.
- dvfjsdhgfv 1y agoThis is Slovakia and Hungary, not "Europe". The future of Hungary in the EU is not certain.