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Not surprising after the recent severe rice shortage and there was a glut of news showing foreigners from a certain country selling hoarded bags of rice only to
by shoobiedoo 1y ago
Not surprising after the recent severe rice shortage and there was a glut of news showing foreigners from a certain country selling hoarded bags of rice only to countrymen on social media
- immibis 1y agoWhat's even more enraging than the rise of fascism is the fact that only fascists have figured out how to be popular in the age of social media.
- ares623 1y agoIt takes a certain kind of person to be popular on social media. The venn diagram of both is very nearly a single circle.
- baxtr 1y agoNah, also radical left wing people get popular. Any radical person figure out how to be popular quickly
- dns_snek 1y agoThe representation of "radical left" (whatever that means) is no more than a drop in the bucket compared to the rise of authoritarian right-wing viewpoints in the media and especially politics. Communist political parties practically don't exist while authoritarian right wing parties running on austerity, cracking down on personal freedoms, and spreading hate towards all sorts of out-groups are gaining mainstream appeal in a lot of the world. Unless you're using the bastardized American definition of "radical left" where any viewpoint to the left of centre, like "our systems are crumbling, rich people should be taxed more" is labeled "radical left".
- dijit 1y agoTo be honest with you, I see a lot less of the Authoritarian Right than I do of the Authoritarian Left… And as a person who does not like authoritarianism, it informs my opinion.
- thrance 1y agoWell, time to get your eyesight checked maybe? If Trump sending troops to major blue cities isn't Authoritarian, I don't know what is.
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- thrance 1y ago> I don’t know, arresting people for hate speech for writing the letter “N” on social media or being arrested for saying “I love bacon” I can't believe you're saying this with a straight face. I really wonder how it feels living in a complete fantasy and constantly whining about made-up stuff. Truly, deeply pathetic. Grow. the. fuck. up.
- dijit 1y agoHello. Where have you been? Man Arrested for saying “I love bacon” at a construction site: https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1958224670093709319?s=46&t=rrZiq2pncr62EUAhe52yEQ https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1958224670093709319?s=4... Police showing up to confiscate young girls phone for online speech: https://youtu.be/lVP-ysIad0I?si=g74BBHd-s1PVlu-g https://youtu.be/lVP-ysIad0I?si=g74BBHd-s1PVlu-g The “N” letter one is hard to find due to it being a hard pattern to search unfortunately. Edit: found it; https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPB4bmxDtNV/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPB4bmxDtNV/ or https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=591735277262669&vanity=ForTraditionalBritain https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=591735277262669&vanity=ForTr... (for what its worth I’m actually dubious of the truth pertaining to the last one).
- totetsu 1y agoConservative populists meet people where they are and talk to their fears and dissatisfactions. 'Hey I see you're working hard but still struggling, It didn't used to be like that, and hey .. look at all these foreigners around now .. isn't so unfair this 'tax free' shopping they get to do? How come you're in your own country and struggling, but foreigners are paying less for things..' where as socially or culturally progressive side of things what ever you want to call it is more likely to start with 'hey that thing you're doing is wrong and you need to change that', even if they are in fully realised practice the more accepting and inclusive of the two..
- immibis 1y agoThe difference between truth and propaganda, I guess. Having the truth on your side barely matters; being able to do good propaganda is what wins elections and wars.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoThe truth helps under an audience of educated peers. You can't easily lie to your fellow congressman, nor a judge and lawyer. Of course, that's nothing money can't fix.
- somenameforme 1y agoThis sort of rhetoric is precisely what is fueling the rise of "the other side." It's exactly like when religious conservatives were in power and proclaiming that everybody who disagreed with them was some sort of family hating, country hating, religion hating, entity. Ummm, no - I can disagree with your views without hating much of anything or anybody, but you're doing a damn fine job of projecting your own hate, thank you very much. And it's the same thing now a days, except the roles are largely reversed. Somebody who puts the interest of their nation and the citizens of that nation first isn't a "fascist." That sort of rhetoric, let alone the sharp rise in violence against it (to say nothing of the condoning, if not outright support of such), is just driving everybody who was kind of in the middle more and more away from the 'name callers.' I think you can see this in the US where polls show independents increasingly leaning right on most issues, whereas not that long ago they tended to lean left. And given our basically 50/50 split, independents have the power to pick which side wins. I feel politics is like this perpetual motion machine where you reach some absolute extreme on end where the side in power starts to do really dumb stuff which ends up driving people to the other side until we trend (over what feels like a ~25 year cycle) to the next opposite extreme and the cycle begins anew.
- lyu07282 1y agoPutting the "interests of their nation and the citizens of that nation" first is the meaningless populist rhetoric part, that always appeals in a racist, bigoted populous (so every nation ever pretty much). That's like people suffer economically from neoliberalism, so you redirect to unrelated scapegoats, that's trivial, happened a million times. Historically the fascist then, will use economic populist policy. That's like when Hitler built the Autobahn, you alleviate the economic grievances, support for the autocrat cements and then the real fascist stuff begins, that's when term limits go away and their enemies go in the oven. But they don't do that economic populist part do they? These new right-wing movements in the west aren't doing this part of the equation. Because we are now in the "interesting", novel case where the autocrats themselves are also just more neoliberals, the real power hasn't really moved an inch, like they are all paid by the same set of oligarchs, power is already fully consolidated. So I suspect nothing much will happen, it will just swing back to the center that shifted the overton window a bit more to the right in the meantime, the status quo didn't change so people are perpetually unhappy with no idea why. > I feel politics is like this perpetual motion machine where you reach some absolute extreme on end Yeah man! Totally! It's like when we move from Reaganomics in the 80s to Clintonomics in the 90s, from one "absolute extreme end" to the other! TF
- FranzFerdiNaN 1y agoThat’s not really the issue, it’s that fascist talking points cause uproar and thus engagement and thus gets rewarded by the social media companies. Also, too many rich people seem to feel way too comfortable with fascism, probably thinking their wealth will insulate them from the consequences.
- palmotea 1y ago> What's even more enraging than the rise of fascism is the fact that only fascists have figured out how to be popular in the age of social media. I'll put aside your thought-killing use the the f-word. What's really going on is liberals (of the social and pre-market variety) has embraced a "there is no alternative" style in and attempt to collapse political politics into kind of "unipolar" political moment, where the only option is to agree with them. They has quite a lot of success for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_alternative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_alternative
- immibis 1y agoWell they're not wrong? The choices were fascists (they are - obviously - don't sugar coat it) and some useless non-fascist politicians. Most people would expect the majority to think that literally anything is better than fascism, but the majority doesn't think that. The majority actually voted that literally anything is better than useless do-nothings. Which is the same way Hitler got elected by the way.
- krapp 1y agoWhat if they are wrong and the belief that the only alternative to fascism is "useless do-nothings" is itself the result of fascist propaganda and indoctrination?
- palmotea 1y ago> Well they're not wrong? The choices were fascists... That's the problem with using "there is no alternative"-style politics push a unpopular positions against resistance and suppress dissent: you give "fascists" the opportunity to become popular by giving voice to popular sentiments (e.g. fuck the neoliberal status quo, we want our factories back). > Most people would expect the majority to think that literally anything is better than fascism, but the majority doesn't think that. The error was liberals though they could rely on that kind of revulsion so they wouldn't have to bend to popular opinion in unfashionable places they don't like visiting. That only works so long before people get sick of it. I mean: for all the fearmongering about looming authoritarianism, did the Democratic party ever stray far from its partisan brand? Did it ever become a kind of united popular front, dropping divisive positions and adopting popular but off-brand ones to meet the threat? No, it did not. And the fact that it did not do those things completely undermined its whole "threat of fascism case." It made it sound like manipulative garbage, basically.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoThe easiest thing to tap into for an uncomfortable populace is fear. Once you do that, the easiest thing to do is to redirect that fear to literally anything or anyone else. Social media is easy mode for fascism to do this the world over. By the time you type out a subtle conversation and make a short and long term plans, the mobs will already form. The way engagement on social media works just amplifies the extremes and culls the subtlety.
- mkfs 1y ago> only fascists Do you think it's fair to characterize every rightwing populist as a "fascist?"
- immibis 1y agoI think people who broadly agree with Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, etc. are fascists.
- cinntaile 1y agoThere is no real rice shortage, so it's more like a self-imposed rice shortage when they don't want to import foreign rice.
- BatteryMountain 1y agoCare to elaborate? Not familiar.
- filloooo 1y agoHe meant China, the usual suspect for many other social problems in Japan according to many internet gurus, was promptly named the culprit of the ongoing nation wide rice shortage and price speculation, because some of them were found to be reselling their rice stocks on Chinese social media, and mysterious Chinese were buying directly from local rice farmers sidestepping the farmers association that controls all national agricultural trade.
- BatteryMountain 1y agoOh I see, thank you.
- tho23i42234 1y agoWasn't that mostly because Basmati rice actually ended up becoming less expensive than Japanese rice - and so the spike in demand would basically ensure people from the Indian-subcontinent to get their rice supplies ? (Japanese rice is very different from Indian-rice).