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37 points by thsName 1y ago

n4r9 1y ago
> Critics circulated a clip from the “Dead End: Paranormal Park” in which Barney Guttman, the series’ protagonist, comes out to his friend Norma as transgender. “I’m trans, Norma,” Barney says. “Being here, it’s like a whole new place. I can just be Barney, and I can choose if and when I tell people.” The character says he has “never been happier” and says it is important to “live your life without apology.” Libs of TikTok shared the clip and accused the show of pushing “pro-transgender” on “7-YEAR-OLDS.” Wow. Replace "transgender" with "homosexual" and you get the homophobia of the late 20th Century. Are some people really so afraid of their kids learning that some people are happy being transgender?
- jsheard 1y ago
  > Are some people really so afraid of their kids learning that some people are happy being transgender? Elon disowned his trans daughter Vivian, so yes. It doesn't matter to him that she is happy, what matters is that this isn't what he wanted, and now he's lashing out at the world for letting this injustice happen to him. Vivian alleges that Elon uses sex-selective IVF with a preference for boys, implying those control freak tendencies go back to before she was even born. He didn't just want a son, he demanded one, and then that child turning the tables on him broke his brain.
- rsynnott 1y ago
  Pretty much the entire modern transphobia movement appears to be, essentially, taking 90s/early noughties-style homophobia and changing a few words. As someone who was a target the first time round it’s really very striking how similar it is. (Interestingly, early noughties transphobia had a fairly different character; the “think of the children” aspect is fairly new.)
  - n4r9 1y ago
    How would you describe the transphobia of the early noughties? For those that might have been too young to pick up on it at the time.
    - rsynnott 1y ago
      Mostly either religious, or TERF stuff. By which I mean _real_ trans-exclusionary radical feminism stuff (TERF has come to have a much broader colloquial meaning). And it was _niche_. A number of European countries and US states passed gender recognition laws based on self-id, with minimal fuss. Even as late as 2015, Ireland passed such a law with no-one except the religious loons caring, while the marriage referendum around the same time attracted far more fearmongering. This kind of moral panic around kids is new (though, as I mentioned, it very much echoes the homophobic movement a few decades ago), as is the bathrooms thing. I’m convinced that its emergence at least in this part of the world was almost entirely due to the British right needing a new wedge issue after Brexit; you see it being suddenly pushed very hard out of nowhere there post-2016, and especially post-2021. From Britain, it leaked out, with European transphobia having a strong British flavour.
      - n4r9 1y ago
        Interesting... where are you referring to when you say "this part of the world"? Britain itself, or Ireland?
        rsynnott 1y ago
        Western Europe in general really, though specifically Ireland, yeah. It hasn't caught on here to the same degree that it has in the UK, at least not for now, fortunately (politically, it's mostly the preserve of fringe weirdos, whereas it's a major-party thing in the UK at this point), but some of the talking points have definitely come over. As to the sudden shift in the UK, Cameron and May's Conservative governments planned to introduce self-ID (and Cameron was very noisy about the UK's high rating on LGBT rights - of course it has since slid quite a bit in those rankings...), Boris was kinda transphobic but not particularly loud about it, but then by 2022 you see Penny Mordaunt basically facing a sort of transphobia purity test in her leadership campaign (https://news.sky.com/story/penny-mordaunt-dismisses-claims-about-her-views-on-trans-rights-as-smears-as-former-tory-leader-questions-her-experience-12653685 https://news.sky.com/story/penny-mordaunt-dismisses-claims-a...). It was a really rapid about-face.
- dzhiurgis 1y ago
  Homosexuality doesn't make you permanently infertile tho.
  - n4r9 1y ago
    Fair point, that is a difference. Transitioning is a significant change and not to be taken lightly. That said, fertility can be preserved by freezing sperm or eggs. It's offered on the NHS as part of the gender transition process.

37 points by thsName 1y ago

n4r9 1y ago

> Critics circulated a clip from the “Dead End: Paranormal Park” in which Barney Guttman, the series’ protagonist, comes out to his friend Norma as transgender. “I’m trans, Norma,” Barney says. “Being here, it’s like a whole new place. I can just be Barney, and I can choose if and when I tell people.” The character says he has “never been happier” and says it is important to “live your life without apology.” Libs of TikTok shared the clip and accused the show of pushing “pro-transgender” on “7-YEAR-OLDS.” Wow. Replace "transgender" with "homosexual" and you get the homophobia of the late 20th Century. Are some people really so afraid of their kids learning that some people are happy being transgender?

jsheard 1y ago
> Are some people really so afraid of their kids learning that some people are happy being transgender? Elon disowned his trans daughter Vivian, so yes. It doesn't matter to him that she is happy, what matters is that this isn't what he wanted, and now he's lashing out at the world for letting this injustice happen to him. Vivian alleges that Elon uses sex-selective IVF with a preference for boys, implying those control freak tendencies go back to before she was even born. He didn't just want a son, he demanded one, and then that child turning the tables on him broke his brain.
rsynnott 1y ago
Pretty much the entire modern transphobia movement appears to be, essentially, taking 90s/early noughties-style homophobia and changing a few words. As someone who was a target the first time round it’s really very striking how similar it is. (Interestingly, early noughties transphobia had a fairly different character; the “think of the children” aspect is fairly new.)
- n4r9 1y ago
  How would you describe the transphobia of the early noughties? For those that might have been too young to pick up on it at the time.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    Mostly either religious, or TERF stuff. By which I mean _real_ trans-exclusionary radical feminism stuff (TERF has come to have a much broader colloquial meaning). And it was _niche_. A number of European countries and US states passed gender recognition laws based on self-id, with minimal fuss. Even as late as 2015, Ireland passed such a law with no-one except the religious loons caring, while the marriage referendum around the same time attracted far more fearmongering. This kind of moral panic around kids is new (though, as I mentioned, it very much echoes the homophobic movement a few decades ago), as is the bathrooms thing. I’m convinced that its emergence at least in this part of the world was almost entirely due to the British right needing a new wedge issue after Brexit; you see it being suddenly pushed very hard out of nowhere there post-2016, and especially post-2021. From Britain, it leaked out, with European transphobia having a strong British flavour.
    - n4r9 1y ago
      Interesting... where are you referring to when you say "this part of the world"? Britain itself, or Ireland?
      - rsynnott 1y ago
        Western Europe in general really, though specifically Ireland, yeah. It hasn't caught on here to the same degree that it has in the UK, at least not for now, fortunately (politically, it's mostly the preserve of fringe weirdos, whereas it's a major-party thing in the UK at this point), but some of the talking points have definitely come over. As to the sudden shift in the UK, Cameron and May's Conservative governments planned to introduce self-ID (and Cameron was very noisy about the UK's high rating on LGBT rights - of course it has since slid quite a bit in those rankings...), Boris was kinda transphobic but not particularly loud about it, but then by 2022 you see Penny Mordaunt basically facing a sort of transphobia purity test in her leadership campaign (https://news.sky.com/story/penny-mordaunt-dismisses-claims-about-her-views-on-trans-rights-as-smears-as-former-tory-leader-questions-her-experience-12653685 https://news.sky.com/story/penny-mordaunt-dismisses-claims-a...). It was a really rapid about-face.
dzhiurgis 1y ago
Homosexuality doesn't make you permanently infertile tho.
- n4r9 1y ago
  Fair point, that is a difference. Transitioning is a significant change and not to be taken lightly. That said, fertility can be preserved by freezing sperm or eggs. It's offered on the NHS as part of the gender transition process.