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I'm all in favor for releasing them, but do people really think this document will change much? Distraction, projection, and denial are so effective it's not cl

I'm all in favor for releasing them, but do people really think this document will change much? Distraction, projection, and denial are so effective it's not clear what impact people would imagine it has. If you frequent conservative forums you'll notice people are more committed to the fascist project than they are to Trump. He may in the end be disposable to them.

maplethorpe 1y ago
> I'm all in favor for releasing them, but do people really think this document will change much? The government seems to fear that it would.
- jennyholzer 1y ago
  With this in mind, I have to assume that they were killing children on Epstein's island.
  - HumblyTossed 1y ago
    Nah that was in Romania. It’s all linked together though.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  "The government" is tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. I have a hard time imagining this list being released would change much about how it operates, frankly. This strikes me as resistance borne of individual—if deep—fear.
kemayo 1y ago
He seems to be the glue that's holding together the current coalition. The fascist project set is absolutely there, but they've never really won over the MAGA crowd who flocked to Trump's rallies. It's certainly possible that someone will manage to hold them together post-Trump, but nobody in conservative leadership right now seems to have his charisma and ability to draw those people in. (I absolutely believe that Vance thinks he can do it, but I am extremely skeptical.) Which does make it challenging for them, since Trump's an elderly man who doesn't look to be in particularly good health.
- jennyholzer 1y ago
  It's hard for me to imagine anyone who didn't already rise to prominence in the mass media environment of yesteryear to engage voters in the way Trump has. In other words, I think Trump was able to succeed politically because he was "the guy from TV". I don't think the current media environment is making more "guys from TV" (at least not with anywhere close to the status they had ~25 years ago).
  - kemayo 1y ago
    Watch out for President MrBeast in 2032.
jennyholzer 1y ago
Trump is the glue.
add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
Each side thinks the other is the useful idiot. That's hilarious.
HumblyTossed 1y ago
Trump is being used as the scapegoat mechanism. They’re using him to push and shove the bad stuff so that when he’s expelled everyone feels like it’s over but nothing really has been reverted. Thiel is definitely part of this. As is his bought and paid for minion Vance.
Gigachad 1y ago
The amount of effort Trump has made to hide these documents makes me think they must be so much worse than expected.

maplethorpe 1y ago

> I'm all in favor for releasing them, but do people really think this document will change much? The government seems to fear that it would.

jennyholzer 1y ago
With this in mind, I have to assume that they were killing children on Epstein's island.
- HumblyTossed 1y ago
  Nah that was in Romania. It’s all linked together though.
MangoToupe 1y ago
"The government" is tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. I have a hard time imagining this list being released would change much about how it operates, frankly. This strikes me as resistance borne of individual—if deep—fear.

kemayo 1y ago

He seems to be the glue that's holding together the current coalition. The fascist project set is absolutely there, but they've never really won over the MAGA crowd who flocked to Trump's rallies. It's certainly possible that someone will manage to hold them together post-Trump, but nobody in conservative leadership right now seems to have his charisma and ability to draw those people in. (I absolutely believe that Vance thinks he can do it, but I am extremely skeptical.) Which does make it challenging for them, since Trump's an elderly man who doesn't look to be in particularly good health.

jennyholzer 1y ago
It's hard for me to imagine anyone who didn't already rise to prominence in the mass media environment of yesteryear to engage voters in the way Trump has. In other words, I think Trump was able to succeed politically because he was "the guy from TV". I don't think the current media environment is making more "guys from TV" (at least not with anywhere close to the status they had ~25 years ago).
- kemayo 1y ago
  Watch out for President MrBeast in 2032.

jennyholzer 1y ago

Trump is the glue.

add-sub-mul-div 1y ago

Each side thinks the other is the useful idiot. That's hilarious.

HumblyTossed 1y ago

Trump is being used as the scapegoat mechanism. They’re using him to push and shove the bad stuff so that when he’s expelled everyone feels like it’s over but nothing really has been reverted. Thiel is definitely part of this. As is his bought and paid for minion Vance.

Gigachad 1y ago

The amount of effort Trump has made to hide these documents makes me think they must be so much worse than expected.