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> A lot of the behaviors this seems to force I don't understand - like railroading whether to skip breakfast or not. I am well aware that for kids with autism f
by jasonsb 1y ago
> A lot of the behaviors this seems to force I don't understand - like railroading whether to skip breakfast or not. I am well aware that for kids with autism frequently there are feeding issues, but what's going on in the "simulation" is very not clear to me.
I lost interest after the breakfast question. For someone who’s physically fit (which this person likely is) skipping breakfast shouldn’t cause a noticeable drop in energy. If it does, then there may be more going on than just autism.
- 12345hn6789 1y agoYou don't feel it immediately. Notice the bar doesn't reset the next day. You don't feel breakfast immediately but your workout later in the day and tomorrow will be affected by this.
- serf 1y agoyou also don't fall asleep at your desk as a response to a birthday party in the office early in the morning after a good nights' sleep, but if you play a one-sided game in this that's what happens. it's not a reality simulator, incredibly few video games are. the whole thing seems like a conflicted struggle between "I want to make a game" and "I need to get my points across", often to the detriment of the game-part. It's an interesting concept though.
- curtisblaine 1y ago> It's an interesting concept though Why? It's a multiple choice game with different outcomes. Hardly groundbreaking.
- no_wizard 1y agoI think the subject matter makes it interesting conceptually, not gameplay. Execution matters regardless, but not all innovations are in mechanics of gameplay.
- hluska 1y agoCan you name another multiple choice game about this subject?
- qwertytyyuu 1y agonot quite the same subject but i think depression quest executed on its subject matter better than this did
- mpnsk1 1y agoDepression Quest?
- gremlinunderway 1y agoI think you're overly inflating the word "interesting" here. It doesn't imply novelty, innovation or anything groundbreaking. It's just of interest, which isn't a high bar.
- failrate 1y agoMy lived experience is that high stress situations frequently make me feel like just going to sleep.
- humanfromearth9 1y agoThis may have multiple causes (past experience/trauma, energy levels, existing depression, sleep troubles, anything on the spectrum of autism, like ADHD...). As far as energy levels go, if you are already tired, you may lack energy to cope with stressful situations, which leads you to procrastinate or even sleep too just not face it. From personal experience, low (just below the lower limit, so nothing seemingly dramatic) vitamin D levels may affect one's energy levels negatively (always tired, brain fog, everything feels hard...), and having appropriate vitamin D levels may already provide one with a clear mind and remove the hardship of dealing with most of what others consider as seemingly simple situations. You might be depressed because of low energy levels, instead of the other way around. So, make sure your energy levels are appropriate and that your mitochondria work fine. (Any LLM will provide you with detailed info about energy levels and mitochondria). Of course, that's only based on personal experience, and I'm a software engineer, not a Doctor. Have a nice day.
- gtirloni 1y agoSame if it involves a human yelling. If I'm in my bed while it's happening , I might actually sleep briefly. It becomes impossible to stay awake sometimes. Other high stress situations involving actually solving something motivates me though.
- vasco 1y ago> My lived experience What are the other types of experience one might have?
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoOther people's? Like, I don't get meltdowns myself but I've seen others that do.
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- account42 1y ago> the whole thing seems like a conflicted struggle between "I want to make a game" and "I need to get my points across", often to the detriment of the game-part. This seems to be a common issue with mediocre video game writers and designers, especially those politically motivated. If you can't trust your audience to make up their own mind about the subject matter then maybe the interactive medium isn't the right one for you.
- recursive 1y agoI don't even have an autism diagnosis, and I never skip breakfast because of the energy drop. I bike to work, run 5ks, and am not overweight, even by standardized BMI metrics. I don't even have an autism diagnosis. It never occurred to me that something might be "going on". Breakfast imparts energy. To me, that has been a given.
- trenchpilgrim 1y agoI can go about a full day before eating without noticing an energy drop. Everyone's different.
- kulahan 1y agoI find I’m happiest not eating until about 6 pm. Usually one large meal and one small late-night snack. I’m a little surprised there wasn’t much evolutionary pressure to align eating schedules considering how social we are but meh. Maybe everyone being on their own schedule is actually better for survival.
- Jensson 1y agoThink that is farmer vs hunter adaption. Hunters eat big meals less often, plant eaters eat small meals often as its more work to digest plants. So humans doing both have genes for both, but maybe some humans have more of some of those.
- account42 1y agoJust like with sleep cycles are is probably also some variance to accommodate different roles in a group.
- brookst 1y agoI was in my 30’s before I realized that other people really need to eat and can’t just decide to skip a day when work / travel / timezones make it inconvenient. So much natural variation.
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- a1o 1y agoIf I don’t eat breakfast I feel afraid I will lose any gym gains and feel very weak. I don’t know anyone that hits the gym daily and skips breakfast.
- yoz-y 1y agoSince the anabolic window is a lie and you have roughly 72 hours to feed yourself protein after effort you can skip breakfast without any impact if you don’t feel hungry. I don’t think many nocturnal people who wake up regularly at 10:00 really eat breakfast if lunch is 2 hours away, regardless of gym habits.
- spoiler 1y agoIt's complicated for me. Sometimes breakfast makes me notice my digestive system, which seems to make my ADHD-adjacent traits worse. I also get IBS... Which is different from the meds constipation. So eating is difficult. Because of IBS my bowels are also unpredictable, so dosing laxatives is hard. I don't know how many of these things are caused by meds. Then there's the energy thing. I guess if I'm in ketosis it's fine, but after not eating for a whole day it's hard to sustain the next day, but eating isn't alway worth it. The saddest part is that junk foot and Tesco meal deal is so is somehow easier to digest. So I often eat that. I'm trying Kefir (even though I'm lactose intolerant, but I take lactase with it) for the 10 time probably. My GP recommended it. Alas, maybe it helps. Soooo, tldr eating yes, I love it, but it can have consequences that completely tank my productivity. And each time I have to ponder this it feels like I've done a chore but without the reward feeling of completing a chore, even though I just say there in silence for 5-15 minutes Idk if other people are in a similar boat
- andreareina 1y agoI'm a mid-packer in the triathlons I participate in, so pretty fit. I definitely notice the energy difference between having eaten breakfast or not, in the everyday (non-training) context. It's not a hunger thing (I'd miss breakfast most days if I didn't literally schedule it) and I can do my strength training and short intervals to the same performance fasted as fed. But I am aware of it.
- tpoacher 1y agoEveryone's different. I lose energy if I do have breakfast. Which results in lack of focus. Therefore I often postpone my breakfast as long as I possibly can, otherwise, with a large probability, my work day is ruined before it even starts.
- thelittleone 1y agoAgree, breakfast slows me down, so I rarely eat it anymore and typically eat around midday to 1pm after morning work and exercise. I've fasted only once, it lasted 12 days and my energy level was almost overwhelming and electric. Boxing, running, etc. I gave up trying to understand why. And although it was an amazing experience, have not fasted again in the 5 years since.
- yoz-y 1y agoWhy? If it was so good.
- movpasd 1y agoFor myself, I have low energy if I don't eat breakfast, but there is essentially no hunger signal for me in the morning. Over time I've settled on eating the plainest breakfast I can. I think this has a lot to do with the 9–5 and my natural sleep cycle being delayed compared to that.
- escapedmoose 1y agoSame. If I have breakfast it seems to kickstart my metabolism or something idk. The result is, if I have breakfast, I’m distracted by hunger all morning. If I skip breakfast I can focus all morning and I don’t get hungry until lunchtime. Bodies are weird.
- snemvalts 1y agoi would interpret physical fitness as cardio exercise routine and depleted muscle glycogen stores: so breakfast is very welcome and without it is not possible to keep up exercise routine
- devmor 1y agoSkipping breakfast absolutely causes a noticeable drop in energy for most people. Especially if you work an intellectually demanding job. That blood glucose is important. Also of note given the OP’s subject, several studies show that people with significantly impactful Autism spectrum disorders have higher brain glucose consumption than the baseline.
- watwut 1y ago> For someone who’s physically fit (which this person likely is) skipping breakfast shouldn’t cause a noticeable drop in energy. It definitely does.
- phito 1y agoUnless autism gives you an eating disorder, making it so you have absolutely no energy reserves cough cough
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- robertpateii 1y agoBeing physically fit past your 30s is a series of building habits and making hard choices that obviously is a challenge of its own that many in sedentary jobs have skipped or fallen away from. OP may be fit, but yeah for average office worker (especially in locations that are car-bound on long commutes) I’d bet there is indeed more going on than just autism.
- izzylan 1y agoYou're unfairly extrapolating from your own experience here -- everyone's body has different chemistry. I have to eat breakfast in the morning in order to feel energetic during the day. But specifically, I need a high-protein, high-fiber breakfast. Anything else makes me feel lethargic and tired.