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I'm pretty strongly in the difference camp. It giveth and taketh away. I can't get through a full meal hearing people chew food without some background noise go

I'm pretty strongly in the difference camp. It giveth and taketh away. I can't get through a full meal hearing people chew food without some background noise going but I also completed my PhD before I was 30 so it feels wrong to call it a pathology ya know?

beeflet 1y ago
Is it rare to complete a PhD before 30?
- joshcsimmons 1y ago
  I just looked it up - I guess it's not! As I said in another thread, paid the price, didn't receive the intelligence.
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- slickytail 1y ago
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- zahlman 1y ago
  Not much rarer than completing it at all, probably. It's still certainly an accomplishment.
cratermoon 1y ago
What I was getting at in my question is, in response to the question about medication, is the intent to "fix" a perceived "problem", or should any medication taken be tuned to provide support for coping with a world that can be actively hostile to neurodivergent people.
- thyristan 1y ago
  Any psychological disorder is treatment-worthy iff the patient suffers from it. So not just "you were diagnosed", but "you were diagnosed, have problems caused by it, suffer from those problems, and want relief". So yes to both, treatment can be intended to fix a problem that a patient suffers from that is just related to his perception of things. But it can also be intended to support your interactions with a hostile environment that you suffer from.
  - cratermoon 1y ago
    "disorder" is a loaded term in this context.
    - Dylan16807 1y ago
      It's redundant. "disorder" and "iff the patient suffers from it" are basically the same thing in this context. So you can remove the word disorder and that comment means the same thing.
- lstodd 1y ago
  FWIW (and I do have relevant personal experience) "fixing" is not in the option set. One can only cope. SSRIs, VPA, amphetamines or whatever (including alcohol, THC, DMT and opiates), they just shift the person's perception/consciousness a bit so it might become more copeable in the current society. That is all.

beeflet 1y ago

Is it rare to complete a PhD before 30?

joshcsimmons 1y ago
I just looked it up - I guess it's not! As I said in another thread, paid the price, didn't receive the intelligence.
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slickytail 1y ago
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zahlman 1y ago
Not much rarer than completing it at all, probably. It's still certainly an accomplishment.

cratermoon 1y ago

What I was getting at in my question is, in response to the question about medication, is the intent to "fix" a perceived "problem", or should any medication taken be tuned to provide support for coping with a world that can be actively hostile to neurodivergent people.

thyristan 1y ago
Any psychological disorder is treatment-worthy iff the patient suffers from it. So not just "you were diagnosed", but "you were diagnosed, have problems caused by it, suffer from those problems, and want relief". So yes to both, treatment can be intended to fix a problem that a patient suffers from that is just related to his perception of things. But it can also be intended to support your interactions with a hostile environment that you suffer from.
- cratermoon 1y ago
  "disorder" is a loaded term in this context.
  - Dylan16807 1y ago
    It's redundant. "disorder" and "iff the patient suffers from it" are basically the same thing in this context. So you can remove the word disorder and that comment means the same thing.
lstodd 1y ago
FWIW (and I do have relevant personal experience) "fixing" is not in the option set. One can only cope. SSRIs, VPA, amphetamines or whatever (including alcohol, THC, DMT and opiates), they just shift the person's perception/consciousness a bit so it might become more copeable in the current society. That is all.