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Someone remind me the benefits of mass produced fake videos again?

ToucanLoucan 1y ago
- Political propaganda - Scamming people at scale - Nonconsensual pornography - Juicing engagement metrics for fading social media sites - The ongoing destruction of truth as a concept in our increasingly atomized and divided world
- jablongo 1y ago
  I think the last one takes the cake.
chis 1y ago
I imagine it's incredibly useful for prototyping movies, tv, commercials before going to the final version. CGI will probably get way cheaper too with some hybrid approach. Obviously this will get used for a lot of evil or bad as well
- greyk47 1y ago
  can you imagine a billion dollar company promoting their new pre-vis app?
  - jsheard 1y ago
    I feel like that's missing the point of pre-vis anyway, its purpose is to lay down key details with precision but without regard for fidelity (e.g. https://youtu.be/KMMeHPGV5VE https://youtu.be/KMMeHPGV5VE), a system with high fidelity but very loose control is the exact opposite of what they want.
minimaxir 1y ago
It's fun: maybe not for everyone, but there's clearly sufficient interest in it. Whether said fun is "worth" the social and economic costs is a separate issue.
IncreasePosts 1y ago
I can have an idea and see a video of something like my idea pretty quickly. What are the benefits of what you do? Does anyone know?
jamiecurle 1y ago
Fun.
- observationist 1y ago
  ... how dare you, sir. That is entirely unacceptable and you will be reported to the ministry of proper living! Regardless of the slop, some people will learn to use it well. You have stuff like NeuralViz - quite the sight! - and other creators will follow suit, and figure out how to use the new tools to produce content that's worth engaging with. Bigfoot vlogs and dinosaur chase scenes, all that stuff is mostly just fun. People like to play. Let them play. This stuff looks fun, and beats Sora 1 by a long shot. Hopefully it catalyzes
jasonsb 1y ago
Democracy? Strengthened! Nothing says “informed electorate” like not knowing if a politician actually said they support nazism or if it was just a hyper-realistic AI puppet. Trust in media? Soaring! Why believe your eyes or ears when you can doubt everything equally? Journalism? Thriving! Reporters now get to spend their days playing forensic video detective instead of, you know, reporting news. Social harmony? Better than ever! Nothing brings people together like shared paranoia and the collective shrug of “I guess truth is dead now.” Honestly, what could possibly go wrong?
- theLiminator 1y ago
  lol i wonder if this will create a market for PKI at the image sensor level so that videos will be cryptographically signed and baked into the actual video stream with steganography.
bsenftner 1y ago
Advertising: you (her) wearing new clothing before purchase, hair/glasses/makeup, make overs; guys after 3 months of gym membership, you driving the new car, you in this specific new home... etc, etc... I'm surprised this is not already everywhere, but people are too occupied making nsfw and fantasy violence clips.
- a2128 1y ago
  Targeted advertising has become just manipulation. I don't know if personalized advertisement videos for everyone promoting a fake world that doesn't exist is really a benefit for the world...
  - bsenftner 1y ago
    If course it's not a benefit, but it's an advertising angle that will work very well with a class of gullible consumers, and that is enough to justify it being plastered everywhere. I don't write these rules, I just notice them.
thorum 1y ago
People are doing cool things with it. Here’s one example: https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamrelicc https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamrelicc Before AI, each video on this channel would have taken a large team with a Hollywood budget to create. In a few more years, one person may be able to turn their creative vision into a full-length movie.
- j4hdufd8 1y ago
  What are the benefits of those videos?
  - minimaxir 1y ago
    What are the benefits of producing any video?
  - drexlspivey 1y ago
    What are the benefits of this comment?
    - j4hdufd8 1y ago
      Challenging the value of AI generated "art"
      - frde_me 1y ago
        Then the purpose of those videos is to challenge the value of non AI generated "art" (half sarcastic, but you could make the argument that most art has no benefit besides to the person that made the art)
        j4hdufd8 1y ago
        Nice! I enjoyed this sub thread. I'm not sure what I conclude but I enjoyed thinking about this.
- busymom0 1y ago
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- Political propaganda - Scamming people at scale - Nonconsensual pornography - Juicing engagement metrics for fading social media sites - The ongoing destruction of truth as a concept in our increasingly atomized and divided world

jablongo 1y ago
I think the last one takes the cake.

chis 1y ago

I imagine it's incredibly useful for prototyping movies, tv, commercials before going to the final version. CGI will probably get way cheaper too with some hybrid approach. Obviously this will get used for a lot of evil or bad as well

greyk47 1y ago
can you imagine a billion dollar company promoting their new pre-vis app?
- jsheard 1y ago
  I feel like that's missing the point of pre-vis anyway, its purpose is to lay down key details with precision but without regard for fidelity (e.g. https://youtu.be/KMMeHPGV5VE https://youtu.be/KMMeHPGV5VE), a system with high fidelity but very loose control is the exact opposite of what they want.

minimaxir 1y ago

It's fun: maybe not for everyone, but there's clearly sufficient interest in it. Whether said fun is "worth" the social and economic costs is a separate issue.

IncreasePosts 1y ago

I can have an idea and see a video of something like my idea pretty quickly. What are the benefits of what you do? Does anyone know?

jamiecurle 1y ago

Fun.

observationist 1y ago
... how dare you, sir. That is entirely unacceptable and you will be reported to the ministry of proper living! Regardless of the slop, some people will learn to use it well. You have stuff like NeuralViz - quite the sight! - and other creators will follow suit, and figure out how to use the new tools to produce content that's worth engaging with. Bigfoot vlogs and dinosaur chase scenes, all that stuff is mostly just fun. People like to play. Let them play. This stuff looks fun, and beats Sora 1 by a long shot. Hopefully it catalyzes

jasonsb 1y ago

Democracy? Strengthened! Nothing says “informed electorate” like not knowing if a politician actually said they support nazism or if it was just a hyper-realistic AI puppet. Trust in media? Soaring! Why believe your eyes or ears when you can doubt everything equally? Journalism? Thriving! Reporters now get to spend their days playing forensic video detective instead of, you know, reporting news. Social harmony? Better than ever! Nothing brings people together like shared paranoia and the collective shrug of “I guess truth is dead now.” Honestly, what could possibly go wrong?

theLiminator 1y ago
lol i wonder if this will create a market for PKI at the image sensor level so that videos will be cryptographically signed and baked into the actual video stream with steganography.

bsenftner 1y ago

Advertising: you (her) wearing new clothing before purchase, hair/glasses/makeup, make overs; guys after 3 months of gym membership, you driving the new car, you in this specific new home... etc, etc... I'm surprised this is not already everywhere, but people are too occupied making nsfw and fantasy violence clips.

a2128 1y ago
Targeted advertising has become just manipulation. I don't know if personalized advertisement videos for everyone promoting a fake world that doesn't exist is really a benefit for the world...
- bsenftner 1y ago
  If course it's not a benefit, but it's an advertising angle that will work very well with a class of gullible consumers, and that is enough to justify it being plastered everywhere. I don't write these rules, I just notice them.

thorum 1y ago

People are doing cool things with it. Here’s one example: https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamrelicc https://www.tiktok.com/@dreamrelicc Before AI, each video on this channel would have taken a large team with a Hollywood budget to create. In a few more years, one person may be able to turn their creative vision into a full-length movie.

j4hdufd8 1y ago
What are the benefits of those videos?
- minimaxir 1y ago
  What are the benefits of producing any video?
- drexlspivey 1y ago
  What are the benefits of this comment?
  - j4hdufd8 1y ago
    Challenging the value of AI generated "art"
    - frde_me 1y ago
      Then the purpose of those videos is to challenge the value of non AI generated "art" (half sarcastic, but you could make the argument that most art has no benefit besides to the person that made the art)
      - j4hdufd8 1y ago
        Nice! I enjoyed this sub thread. I'm not sure what I conclude but I enjoyed thinking about this.
busymom0 1y ago

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