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> If you've been told your whole life that you're inherently evil for your gender, told you're inherently evil due to your race, cannot earn enough for a dignif
by ryandrake 1y ago
> If you've been told your whole life that you're inherently evil for your gender, told you're inherently evil due to your race, cannot earn enough for a dignified life supporting a family, see no path to owning your own home, have watched as your country has been flooded with millions of military-aged foreign men, have few to no serious dating prospects, and watch powerlessly as laws are passed to persecute you for complaining about any of this... Why bother?
This seems like a distorted world view of someone with a massive persecution complex and who is already susceptible to conspiracy theories. Nobody's telling lonely white men they're inherently evil for their gender. Nobody's telling them they're inherently evil due to their race. And nobody's passing laws to persecute you for making these silly complaints on HN.
Most people benefit immensely from and are indeed dependent on our existing institutions. They pretend they don't and aren't because it's cool and edgy to seem apart from it all. Yes, there are people who fall through the cracks, but by and large, things like public education, public health and safety, emergency services like fire departments, infrastructure like roads and airports, water, sewage, waste management services, libraries, museums, and so on, all benefit far more people than not. As someone else quotes: "They're like housecats: convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand."
I do agree that more and more people cannot earn enough for a dignified life supporting a family, and see no path to owning their own home, and that's a real and growing problem. But that's no reason to nuke the whole country and start over.
- AnimalMuppet 1y agoWhite Fragility said that they had inherited guilt for being white. That's pretty close to "inherently evil".
- mingus88 1y ago[flagged]
- ryandrake 1y agoI couldn't find the part of that web page where they said anyone was inherently evil based on their race or gender, or that young men were "the problem", or that anyone was "excluded". Maybe you can point it out for me. I didn't follow each and every link there, so I might have missed it. In fact, they specifically call out "young people and students" as a priority! Inclusion of groups A, B, and C does not imply exclusion of all other groups.
- mingus88 1y ago[flagged]
- clipsy 1y ago[flagged]
- setterle 1y ago[flagged]
- ryandrake 1y agoFirst of all, evil was not my word--it was what the OP (setterle) claimed people were "being told their whole life." I do empathize with young men who believe they're being persecuted. They are suffering and are in great need of intervention: likely counseling and possibly mental health treatment. It's a shame mental health resources are unavailable to and under-utilized by many Americans, and I wish for all our sake that access to such resources was straightforward and non-stigmatized. Ironically, some of the very institutions that people want to toss away in their desire to "raze the whole damn thing"[1] are institutions that could help them. 1: Also OP's words
- myvoiceismypass 1y agoThey were complaining about the "who we serve" messaging not specifically listing "White" and "Men", much like people whine that the phrase "black lives matter" is exclusionary to whites. Or like the people that complain when a restaurant adds a single vegan option with messaging "happy to serve vegans!" as if it invalidates the complete rest of the menu. Grievance Culture is real.
- setterle 1y ago[flagged]
- NaomiLehman 1y agoAnd that's a bad thing how?
- setterle 1y ago[flagged]