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Grok is now the most popular model on OpenRouter
- tripplyons 1y agoThe Grok 4 Fast and Grok Code Fast models have really impressed me. The only issue I've had is reaching a rate limit on the Grok 4 Fast model. Amazing pricing for highly capable models with good tool calling support.
- odie5533 1y agoThey're definitely amazing for the price. I like that you can do quick back and forth with them. but they're not very smart. When I need something to actually analyze or write good code and not just refactor and move things around, they're not good for that.
- tripplyons 1y agoAgreed. For harder tasks, I like to go to GPT 5 thinking mode, but I'm considering other options. Some times I've had faster success with some of the larger Qwen3 models (480B and 235B variants). I like them in combination with the Repomix CLI to copy an entire project into context and get a response very quickly with some of the accelerated providers like Cerebras.
- cendyne 1y agoNow that Cursor has moved towards a credits system, grok code fast is making the plan last while still being reasonable in inference time. GPT 5 and GPT 5 Codex actually moves my "amount remaining" bar in realtime while being incredibly slow.
- pecord 1y agoLittle miss leading as it is sorted by number of output tokens, and I’ve heard Grok is rather verbose.
- tripplyons 1y agoSorting by revenue would definitely move Grok down. The top 2 Grok models listed are very cheap or even free right now.
- slowmovintarget 1y agoIsn't that a good thing?
- tripplyons 1y agoYes, I am a huge fan of the new Grok models!
- _blk 1y agoIt's very verbose even when prompted to remain brief, but it's still not a bad model and I use it a lot.
- odie5533 1y agoMaybe it's verbose internally? When I run it, it's just extremely fast. So the verbosity doesn't seem to affect things.
- behnamoh 1y agoMisleading because much of Grok's traffic is through their free endpoint. Title should be: Grok is the most popular free cloud model on OpenRouter And even then this wouldn't matter because most devs don't use OpenRouter (commissions!, incompatible API in edge cases, etc.), and most LLM enthusiasts who want to run free models do it on their own machine. --- Edit: Most → Much
- raincole 1y ago> most of Grok's traffic is through their free endpoint https://openrouter.ai/x-ai https://openrouter.ai/x-ai Code Fast 1: 100B Grok 4 (free): 84.6B
- Zambyte 1y ago[flagged]
- _blk 1y agoAs if name calling was gonna help. It's not just free speech when you agree with it. Competition remains a good thing and honestly, the obvious liberal bias (remember the black female pope pics on Gemini?) on virtually all other platforms makes it an appealing alternative for the more nuanced for exactly that purpose.
- Zambyte 1y agoDude, what? "It's not just free speech when you agree with it"? I'm not infringing on their right to free speech by not using their language model. Free speech does not mean free audience. "Competition remains a good thing [...]" agreed, and that's why, like I said in my original comment, I use multiple models (OpenAI, Qwen, Mistral, Llama, Deepseek...). Just not Grok. I made an X account and paid for premium specifically to use Grok, and cancelled it after a few months of use, because it literally just wasn't useful to me. I don't see why this is a problem? Competition doesn't matter if you don't have the right to not be a customer.
- ARandomerDude 1y ago> The intense Nazi bias makes it a bit of a hard sell to me. I haven't used it for anything social/political. Do you mean actual 1930s-1940s Nazis or are you using the term analogically?
- meowface 1y ago[flagged]
- meowface 1y agoFor what it's worth, barring that week or two where it parroted Nazi talking points, after community notes Grok may be the best thing to happen to the Twitter information ecosystem. The majority of its use in ideological contexts is effective debunking of right-wing conspiracy theories. Trumpists and neo-Nazis constantly argue with it and say it's compromised, and I have seen it sway some conspiracy theorists. You can see many examples here: https://reddit.com/r/grokvsmaga/ https://reddit.com/r/grokvsmaga/ I detest Elon and the fact that Twitter is now teeming with neo-Nazis and other nutjobs, but contrary to popular belief Grok has actually been an incredible counterweight to both.
- TeeWEE 1y agoIs open router used a lot? I just use claude code, so this is a misrepresentation of what is actually the most popular model right?
- Workaccount2 1y ago[flagged]
- FergusArgyll 1y agoThis isn't xai, this is openrouter, they sell tokens themselves, so they would know. Now you should reevaluate the rest of your opinions
- Workaccount2 1y agoReddit also isn't xAI. The point is you can secretly pull strings to move things around that you cannot directly control.
- meowface 1y agoFair counterargument. I suspect they probably aren't gaming the OpenRouter stats, but knowing their ethical standards it wouldn't totally shock me.
- Topfi 1y agoFor what it is worth, xAI models have historically always underperformed my personal, amateurish benchmarks when compared to what I’d expect to see due to their performance in more publicly known evals. Claude has historically always been the exact opposite, underperforming public evals while outperforming my testing and OAI with 4.1 and 5 output I found to most closely be within what one would expect from those same benchmarks vs my own. Training to the test, especially in flashy, easy to grasp things like bouncing ball and subsequent failure of similar tasks after small prompts changes made me doubtful of any claims that XAI models are good, with Grok 4 Fast not being an exception. Take the benchmark performance, even when they let external partners like Artificial Analysis do the evaluation, of any LLM lab with massive skepticism, but with XAI I have the most reason to doubt their claims due to prior performance discrepancies. Just to add some context to what I perceive is their honesty. Also, lest we forget their commitment to publishing system prompts and changes to that for the X deployment of Grok and how these somehow did not reflect any changes during the South Africa and Mechahitler incidents…
- blackhaj7 1y agoI was hesitant to use Grok but have actually found it to be excellent and it has totally replaced ChatGPT for me now. The biggest difference is that it isn’t sycophantic and will often tell me I am wrong when I am. This makes way more of a difference than I thought it would as I feel I can trust the results more (perhaps naively)
- toenail 1y agoHrm, I've never used it, but maybe I should. I've really only used claude and chatgpt, but it's annoying with how they agree with whatever you feed them.
- hn_throw2025 1y agoI switched from OpenAI to Gemini a couple of months ago, and was impressed how it sticks to its guns if it thinks I'm wrong.
- blackhaj7 1y agoInteresting, will check it out
- blackhaj7 1y agoI would recommend trialing it for a month instead of ChatGPT. I still use Claude code for coding
- postepowanieadm 1y agoBecause it's free for now.
- dghlsakjg 1y ago50% of their tokens on grok code fast were consumed by kilocode users. Kilocode has been giving away free grok code fast usage. When the price comes up for 0 I will be curious to see if this trend holds.
- lvl155 1y agoI stopped using openrouter because it’s getting pretty shady. I rather spend my money and traffic on someone like Vercel.
- blackhaj7 1y agoWhat is shady about it?
- strangescript 1y agoGrok 4 fast is a legit model. Their code models, including supernova still aren't smart enough. Claude and Codex are ahead. Its definitely fast, but who cares if you have to re-prompt it or it hits issues it can't fix.
- spoaceman7777 1y agoIt's free on OpenRouter, but paid on the official xAI API, for the moment. So, I'd imagine that is inflating the numbers just a bit lol.
- xnx 1y agoThose stacked bar charts are data visualization malpractice. They would tell a much clearer story (who's #1, what are the trends, when did one overtake another) as regular line charts.
- arresin 1y agoI am using it more than the disaster that is gpt5
- rcarmo 1y agoI’m curious as to why, since inside GitHub Copilot GPT-5 has been stellar lately. Are you using it directly? (I assume that the prompting strategy inside Copilot is the reason why it’s so good right now).
- arresin 1y agoIt’s very slow. Extremely marginal improvement over o3. Sometimes falls short (after taking a lot longer). Lower the thinking amount and all marginal improvement evaporates.