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I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns a

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

andersa 1y ago
That's a completely ridiculous comparison. Pointlessly honking or smoking does not create a public record of your activities shared globally without your consent.
- Gigachad 1y ago
  No, it just smells like shit, subjects you to a small risk of cancer, and the other disturbs your sleep resulting in a number of mental and physical health issues. I’d much rather be shown on YouTube playing a sport.
  - ljlolel 1y ago
    Smoking also disturbs sleep
    - card_zero 1y ago
      Difficult to do both at once, certainly.
aeve890 1y ago
>but it’s also just part of life. Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone. >I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent on the internet, forever. So apples and oranges.
- Gigachad 1y ago
  I personally don’t believe that filming airsoft is unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable for OP to not like it, but the majority are either fine with it or filming themselves. So it’s a situation of either dealing with it, or finding a new group to hang out with.
  - delichon 1y ago
    Agree. This isn't about consent when he knows he'll be recorded and participates anyway. Putting it on a consent form wouldn't make it any clearer.
    - arccy 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - unethical_ban 1y ago
        Flip it: The filmers are too lazy and disrespectful to find a group of people that want to be filmed.
  - humanfromearth9 1y ago
    The problem is not being filmed, when the recording is used in small circles. The problem is when it's published for the world to see. As a rule of thumb, for my children at school, I refuse any use of their image if it's not for something that was already possible in the eighties. Publishing school party pictures and videos for the whole world to see was impossible in the 80s, I thus don't allow it and if it happens, it's an invasion of their private life (as per Belgian law at least). Hanging on the school walls some pictures of the classes, or children, doing some activities: that's OK, it could already be done in the 80s and might be useful for the school community. Publishing these in a printed yearbook: I accept. Publishing it on the Internet in electronic format: this was not possible in the 80s, thus I refuse. I think this time strikes a nice balance for everyone involved. By the way, in Belgium, you are allowed to film in public places, but not to misuse the image of others if it's disrespecting their private life, unless for legal requirements.
coffeefirst 1y ago
Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. It took about 5 years for that shift to roll out pretty much everywhere. And it’s so much nicer without it. There’s nothing stopping us from saying this sucks, it’s socially toxic, and we’re not going to put up with it anymore.
- juliangmp 1y ago
  I think that topic worked because a lot of people directly noticed a difference. With the filming it's honestly part of internet culture now. Considering its been illegal in Germany for as long as I remember, it still happens extensively. Especially when you dont know your being filmed.
- reaperducer 1y ago
  Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. A couple of years ago I went to a restaurant and for some reason automatically told the hostess, "Two, non-smoking." She looked at me like I had lobsters crawling out of my ears.
Larrikin 1y ago
Smoking in public has been banned in a number of large cities around the world and so has honking your horn when there is no threat to life.
- xxs 1y ago
  >number of large cities States usually, most of EU/Europe is banned (but not everywhere).
- lan321 1y ago
  No threat to life sounds kinda wild.
latexr 1y ago
> but it’s also just part of life. It’s not, and your two examples are perfect proof of it. Indoor smoking bans have been implemented in several countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/smoke-free-environments_en https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/smoke-free-environments_... Countries applying the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic only allow honking in two specific situations. In addition, it’s culturally dependent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_horn#Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_horn#Regulation https://e.vnexpress.net/news/perspectives/readers-views/the-last-time-i-heard-a-car-horn-in-germany-was-6-years-ago-4841012.html https://e.vnexpress.net/news/perspectives/readers-views/the-... Don’t assume something is an immutable part of life just because it was in place when you were already born. Change can and does happen.
_kidlike 1y ago
your way of thinking shows clearly your lack of comprehension on the subject... you didn't experience the world before the internet, so you think that the internet is "part of life". Let me tell you as someone that helped build it, that it isn't part of life. It's something that we made up, like our ancestors build the railways. Those were neither part of life. Unike the addiction to social media that was carefully engineered by top class psychologists, without anyone realizing. That shouldn't be part of life, but here we are :(

andersa 1y ago

That's a completely ridiculous comparison. Pointlessly honking or smoking does not create a public record of your activities shared globally without your consent.

Gigachad 1y ago
No, it just smells like shit, subjects you to a small risk of cancer, and the other disturbs your sleep resulting in a number of mental and physical health issues. I’d much rather be shown on YouTube playing a sport.
- ljlolel 1y ago
  Smoking also disturbs sleep
  - card_zero 1y ago
    Difficult to do both at once, certainly.

aeve890 1y ago

>but it’s also just part of life. Yeah? Who said that? Any selfish person can say the same about anything. "Yeah my dog shat your lawn but that's just part of life. Deal with it". What's part of life is different for everyone. >I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. Yeah that's annoying, but neither the smoke or the honk are records of your private life published without consent on the internet, forever. So apples and oranges.

Gigachad 1y ago
I personally don’t believe that filming airsoft is unreasonable. It’s not unreasonable for OP to not like it, but the majority are either fine with it or filming themselves. So it’s a situation of either dealing with it, or finding a new group to hang out with.
- delichon 1y ago
  Agree. This isn't about consent when he knows he'll be recorded and participates anyway. Putting it on a consent form wouldn't make it any clearer.
  - arccy 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - unethical_ban 1y ago
      Flip it: The filmers are too lazy and disrespectful to find a group of people that want to be filmed.
- humanfromearth9 1y ago
  The problem is not being filmed, when the recording is used in small circles. The problem is when it's published for the world to see. As a rule of thumb, for my children at school, I refuse any use of their image if it's not for something that was already possible in the eighties. Publishing school party pictures and videos for the whole world to see was impossible in the 80s, I thus don't allow it and if it happens, it's an invasion of their private life (as per Belgian law at least). Hanging on the school walls some pictures of the classes, or children, doing some activities: that's OK, it could already be done in the 80s and might be useful for the school community. Publishing these in a printed yearbook: I accept. Publishing it on the Internet in electronic format: this was not possible in the 80s, thus I refuse. I think this time strikes a nice balance for everyone involved. By the way, in Belgium, you are allowed to film in public places, but not to misuse the image of others if it's disrespecting their private life, unless for legal requirements.

coffeefirst 1y ago

Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. It took about 5 years for that shift to roll out pretty much everywhere. And it’s so much nicer without it. There’s nothing stopping us from saying this sucks, it’s socially toxic, and we’re not going to put up with it anymore.

juliangmp 1y ago
I think that topic worked because a lot of people directly noticed a difference. With the filming it's honestly part of internet culture now. Considering its been illegal in Germany for as long as I remember, it still happens extensively. Especially when you dont know your being filmed.
reaperducer 1y ago
Smoking in restaurants and bars used to be a part of life, until it wasn’t. A couple of years ago I went to a restaurant and for some reason automatically told the hostess, "Two, non-smoking." She looked at me like I had lobsters crawling out of my ears.

Larrikin 1y ago

Smoking in public has been banned in a number of large cities around the world and so has honking your horn when there is no threat to life.

xxs 1y ago
>number of large cities States usually, most of EU/Europe is banned (but not everywhere).
lan321 1y ago
No threat to life sounds kinda wild.

latexr 1y ago

> but it’s also just part of life. It’s not, and your two examples are perfect proof of it. Indoor smoking bans have been implemented in several countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/smoke-free-environments_en https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/smoke-free-environments_... Countries applying the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic only allow honking in two specific situations. In addition, it’s culturally dependent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_horn#Regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_horn#Regulation https://e.vnexpress.net/news/perspectives/readers-views/the-last-time-i-heard-a-car-horn-in-germany-was-6-years-ago-4841012.html https://e.vnexpress.net/news/perspectives/readers-views/the-... Don’t assume something is an immutable part of life just because it was in place when you were already born. Change can and does happen.

_kidlike 1y ago

your way of thinking shows clearly your lack of comprehension on the subject... you didn't experience the world before the internet, so you think that the internet is "part of life". Let me tell you as someone that helped build it, that it isn't part of life. It's something that we made up, like our ancestors build the railways. Those were neither part of life. Unike the addiction to social media that was carefully engineered by top class psychologists, without anyone realizing. That shouldn't be part of life, but here we are :(