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Pretty clear theres a tradeoff between social intelligence and other forms of intelligence
by mikert89 1y ago
Pretty clear theres a tradeoff between social intelligence and other forms of intelligence
- userbinator 1y agoOr "there's a fine line between genius and insanity".
- ok_dad 1y agoIt’s kind of rude to equate autism with “insanity”, but I understand you probably didn’t mean it that way.
- cwmoore 1y agoBit more than rude, historically.
- ninetyninenine 1y agoHe equated being insane with being a genius. Nowhere did he mention autism. I'm diagnosed as autistic and I am therefore more qualified than you to classify what is rude and what isn't rude to autistic people. I think misrepresenting what he actually said is what is rude, not what he in actuality said.
- tonyedgecombe 1y ago>Nowhere did he mention autism. It's implied by being in a discussion about autism.
- JanNash 1y agoDisclaimer: I also read it as rude at first glance. Question: Can you classify what is rude or not for autistic people in general or is it more likely that you might perceive something as not rude which other autistic people might perceive as rude?
- ok_dad 1y agoThanks, I am also autistic, so I guess we're evenly matched for this battle to the death :) Also, I wouldn't presume to speak for all autistic people, though I am one. Sometimes people can take the same sentence to mean different things. Please don't assume malice from others where it could be a difference of understanding. I am not mad or anything, I know how it is to misunderstand things.
- kruffalon 1y agoI just noticed (and got a chuckle out of) something: To me it looks like you first "assumed malice", got called out and now don't want to be assumed malignant yourself. Thanks for the chuckle! But in seriousness: would you mind describing how you interpret your own participation in this thread? I'm fascinated by this behaviour, but I suspect it's as "easy" as you not being able to interpret the original comment in more than one way. (Just as I'm doing too, or at least we both seem to act like it anyway)
- ok_dad 1y agoI said > but I understand you probably didn’t mean it that way. Which I assumed the person I was talking to originally would see, read, and understand to mean that their comment was rude but I’m sure they didn’t mean it that way. Instead, a bunch of others jumped in to interpret it a different way. I don’t see how I supposedly have assumed malice when I literally said that the OP probably wasn’t being malicious in a slightly different way!
- kruffalon 1y agoYou are correct, I'm not sure how I missed the second part of your original comment, my apologies! (I thought I could edit my first comment, but I can't, so this comment will have to do.)
- ok_dad 1y agoNo worries at all, I hate textual communication for the specific reason that it's hard to express true emotions through it.
- ACCount37 1y agoIs there now? High functioning autism exists, but autism in general doesn't seem to give any advantage to general intelligence. And the low end of functioning in autism is really, really low.
- ok_dad 1y agoThe spectrum doesn’t work that way, it’s more like a grab bag of traits than a “low to high” thing. High functioning is often just a way to dismiss the needs for certain autistic individuals who can mask very well.
- bigfatkitten 1y agoAnd for girls in particular, who go mostly undiagnosed because they tend to present very differently to boys.
- PaulHoule 1y agoI'd say otherwise. My wife has a student in her riding academy who is a severely autistic adult who is not independent and gets intensive support from her mom and aides that she hires who turn over rapidly because of the difficulty of the job. She has several seizures on some days. One beautiful day when they were tacking up the horse she thought it was a great day to take a walk (it was!) and took off down the driveway and they pressed me into service looking for her. She wandered onto the neighbor's property and when they asked her what was up she took one of them by the arm and started walking back to our place, she then let go of their arm and grabbed onto mine and I brought her back to everyone's relief.
- al_borland 1y agoYou know what they say, “if you’ve met one autistic person, you’ve met one autistic person.”
- tedk-42 1y agoYep it's like they're grouping all kinds of mental disabilities as autism
- dyauspitr 1y agoEinstein seemed to have absolutely no problems with his social life. Newton on the other hand lived and died alone, possibly a virgin.
- cultofmetatron 1y agoFeynman was also very charismatic
- HarHarVeryFunny 1y agoDitto for John von Neumann
- mrits 1y agoIt seems like there are a lot more gay guys than asexuals out there though.
- hollerith 1y agoIn Western Europe in the 1600s, being a virgin didn't make you a loser in most people's eyes like it does now. Newton had long friendships with other leading intellectual figures (Edmund Halley, John Locke, mathematician David Gregory).
- dyauspitr 1y agoNever being married did however.
- hollerith 1y agoThere are essentially no married virgins, i.e., essentially all the virgins are unmarried, so it seems inconsistent to consider the unmarried as losers but not the virgins.
- lelanthran 1y ago> There are essentially no married virgins, Which is something I point out to JWs rude enough to interrupt my Sunday breakfast. Which of the following scenarios present as most likely: 1. A married couple, living together as a married couple, had never had sex, or 2. They had sex
- shermantanktop 1y agoIMO ideas which make the believer feel better about themselves, particularly about their weaknesses, should be viewed with skepticism. Maybe those bright people with poor social intelligence are more likely to be labeled as very intelligent by others…which would be the kind of thing a social species would do.
- jibal 1y agoThat's not "pretty clear" at all--and you've provided no argument. As a lifetime member and former officer of Mensa, I know many people with both very high IQ and very high EQ.
- DrewADesign 1y agoThe smartest person I’ve ever met— like, well-cited research for all 3 PhDs and still does a lot of it, a few moderately popular books, yet also teaches very popular classes at a world-class university— is extremely socially adept.