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He needs to make a donation to the administration asap if he’s going to get this dropped.

by ohyoutravel 1y ago

sudoshred 1y ago
Too little too late
rchaud 1y ago
He's small fry now. Maybe if he had a popular podcast things would be different.
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shadowtree 1y ago
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- hcknwscommenter 1y ago
  Biden and Obama pardons were done by setting criteria (non-violent drug offenders mainly who got caught up in three strikes nonsense, serving huge sentences) and applying the criteria broadly. Trump is targeting specific folks who are contributing to his cause. Tai Lopez has very little chance under a Democratic presidency, per hard data. He has a decent chance under Trump if he can buy enough trump coin and say some flattering things about Trump, per hard data.
  - calvinmorrison 1y ago
    Didn't Biden pardon his own son for Gun and tax evasion charges? In fact, James and Frank Biden got them too. Obama pardoned his close advisor who lied to the FBI Clinton pardoned Marc Rich - fugitive who's exwife donated lots of money to the clinton Presidential Library or something. Grant pardoned his own private secretary Truman pardoned his own yokel local union mobsters from KC etc
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    - tzs 1y ago
      > Didn't Biden pardon his own son for Gun and tax evasion charges? In fact, James and Frank Biden got them too He pardoned several family members. It should be noted that Hunter is the only one who had actually been charged or convicted of a crime. The others were all preemptive with the stated reason being that Trump was promising to go after the families of basically anyone he saw as an enemy. Biden had earlier said he would not pardon Hunter, but that was before Trump won. He pardoned Hunter because he didn't think Hunter would be treated the same as the other prisoners in federal prison with Trump in charge. If Harris had won it is very likely Hunter would not have been pardoned and would have went to prison for the maybe 3 years that most experts predict he would have received. Considering that a decade from now if you tell someone that the origin of the phrase "trumped up charges" comes from a 300+ year old meaning of the verb "trump" related to an Old French word for deceive and a Middle English word for fabricate they will probably will think you are making it up and the "trump" in the phrase means Donald Trump, it is hard to argue that Biden was wrong.
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- jmull 1y ago
  The issue isn’t the absolute number of pardons — they aren’t doled out randomly — it is the reason for the pardons. It appears Trump gives pardons to allies, and one straight forward way to become his ally is send him money.
  - nradov 1y ago
    Right, in the grand tradition of Bill Clinton pardoning Marc Rich in exchange for large donations. I'm not attempting to defend Trump's pardons but abuse of that power is clearly a persistent bipartisan problem.
    - verteu 1y ago
      One example from 25 years ago hardly demonstrates a "persistent bipartisan" pattern.
      - tzs 1y ago
        Also that pardon was widely condemned by prominent Democrat party officials.
    - jmull 1y ago
      Left vs. right is the wrong way to think of this. It’s corruption vs. integrity and justice. Let’s be on the side of integrity and object to pay-to-play and political pardons, regardless of the party of the administration. There’s nothing left to be done about Clinton’s pardon, but Trump is president now. Let’s make him pay a political cost for his corruption.
- tzs 1y ago
  Biden gave 80 full pardons. The other 4165 were commutations. The difference is that a full pardon effectively negates the conviction (or prevents conviction if granted to someone not yet convicted). Any rights lost due to the felony conviction such as voting rights, firearm rights, holding some public offices, and such are restored. A commutation merely reduces the sentence, sometimes to time already served so that the person is immediately released, and sometimes to a lesser sentence but not on that will result in earlier release (e.g., a President could commute a death sentence to life without parole). It does not restore any rights that were lost due to the felony conviction. Most of Biden's commutations were for non-violent drug possession, with a large fraction of those being for marijuana. Many of these were for cases that nowadays would not even have been prosecuted. Compare to Trump. Almost 1600 of his were full pardons for January 6 people. Only 14 of them were commutations, which were to time served.
  - collingreen 1y ago
    Thanks for bringing more facts to the comments! The parent seems like a huge liar after your details.
- b00ty4breakfast 1y ago
  If those numbers are accurate, Trump is already averaging more than Biden per year. That could obviously fluctuate but he's on course to double Biden's Pardons/Month numbers
masfuerte 1y ago
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He needs to make a donation to the administration asap if he’s going to get this dropped.

sudoshred 1y ago

Too little too late

rchaud 1y ago

He's small fry now. Maybe if he had a popular podcast things would be different.

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shadowtree 1y ago

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hcknwscommenter 1y ago
Biden and Obama pardons were done by setting criteria (non-violent drug offenders mainly who got caught up in three strikes nonsense, serving huge sentences) and applying the criteria broadly. Trump is targeting specific folks who are contributing to his cause. Tai Lopez has very little chance under a Democratic presidency, per hard data. He has a decent chance under Trump if he can buy enough trump coin and say some flattering things about Trump, per hard data.
- calvinmorrison 1y ago
  Didn't Biden pardon his own son for Gun and tax evasion charges? In fact, James and Frank Biden got them too. Obama pardoned his close advisor who lied to the FBI Clinton pardoned Marc Rich - fugitive who's exwife donated lots of money to the clinton Presidential Library or something. Grant pardoned his own private secretary Truman pardoned his own yokel local union mobsters from KC etc
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  - tzs 1y ago
    > Didn't Biden pardon his own son for Gun and tax evasion charges? In fact, James and Frank Biden got them too He pardoned several family members. It should be noted that Hunter is the only one who had actually been charged or convicted of a crime. The others were all preemptive with the stated reason being that Trump was promising to go after the families of basically anyone he saw as an enemy. Biden had earlier said he would not pardon Hunter, but that was before Trump won. He pardoned Hunter because he didn't think Hunter would be treated the same as the other prisoners in federal prison with Trump in charge. If Harris had won it is very likely Hunter would not have been pardoned and would have went to prison for the maybe 3 years that most experts predict he would have received. Considering that a decade from now if you tell someone that the origin of the phrase "trumped up charges" comes from a 300+ year old meaning of the verb "trump" related to an Old French word for deceive and a Middle English word for fabricate they will probably will think you are making it up and the "trump" in the phrase means Donald Trump, it is hard to argue that Biden was wrong.
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jmull 1y ago
The issue isn’t the absolute number of pardons — they aren’t doled out randomly — it is the reason for the pardons. It appears Trump gives pardons to allies, and one straight forward way to become his ally is send him money.
- nradov 1y ago
  Right, in the grand tradition of Bill Clinton pardoning Marc Rich in exchange for large donations. I'm not attempting to defend Trump's pardons but abuse of that power is clearly a persistent bipartisan problem.
  - verteu 1y ago
    One example from 25 years ago hardly demonstrates a "persistent bipartisan" pattern.
    - tzs 1y ago
      Also that pardon was widely condemned by prominent Democrat party officials.
  - jmull 1y ago
    Left vs. right is the wrong way to think of this. It’s corruption vs. integrity and justice. Let’s be on the side of integrity and object to pay-to-play and political pardons, regardless of the party of the administration. There’s nothing left to be done about Clinton’s pardon, but Trump is president now. Let’s make him pay a political cost for his corruption.
tzs 1y ago
Biden gave 80 full pardons. The other 4165 were commutations. The difference is that a full pardon effectively negates the conviction (or prevents conviction if granted to someone not yet convicted). Any rights lost due to the felony conviction such as voting rights, firearm rights, holding some public offices, and such are restored. A commutation merely reduces the sentence, sometimes to time already served so that the person is immediately released, and sometimes to a lesser sentence but not on that will result in earlier release (e.g., a President could commute a death sentence to life without parole). It does not restore any rights that were lost due to the felony conviction. Most of Biden's commutations were for non-violent drug possession, with a large fraction of those being for marijuana. Many of these were for cases that nowadays would not even have been prosecuted. Compare to Trump. Almost 1600 of his were full pardons for January 6 people. Only 14 of them were commutations, which were to time served.
- collingreen 1y ago
  Thanks for bringing more facts to the comments! The parent seems like a huge liar after your details.
b00ty4breakfast 1y ago
If those numbers are accurate, Trump is already averaging more than Biden per year. That could obviously fluctuate but he's on course to double Biden's Pardons/Month numbers

masfuerte 1y ago

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