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In my senior year (age 18), a kid jumped on me and tried to beat me up. I pushed him off me and reported it to the school. I got a mandatory suspension for "bei

In my senior year (age 18), a kid jumped on me and tried to beat me up. I pushed him off me and reported it to the school. I got a mandatory suspension for "being in a fight" under the school's zero tolerance policy. The funny outcome of this is that I realized I should've just beat him back, I would've faced no penalty because he wouldn't have reported it and he would've realized I wasn't a target. I do feel like SROs (police officers in schools) are much more common today than they were when I was in high school, but I am not sure treating school kids like adults always works out great either.

keanb 1y ago
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- ocdtrekkie 1y ago
  Adults don't resolve conflicts by beating each other up. If this was your school's lesson, I'm sorry.
  - dzhiurgis 1y ago
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    - vkou 1y ago
      Majority of this site, likely including you, probably don't support absolute pacifism. Unless you are on the trivial fringe that subscribes to it, the question is always not whether violence is required to protect yourself, it is at what point and against whom is violence required, and what are the rules around it. Fascists so far have a track record for at worst, killing a few million people, and at best, absolutely ruining the countries they have managed to take over. Their movements have historically not been bound by any law, including their own.
- AtlasBarfed 1y ago
  If you are being threatened physically and violently as an adult, to the point you fear for your life, then.... you go to "authorities". If the "authorities" don't take it seriously, you have to "protect yourself". If the threat is by a larger/stronger person or people, you even the odds with....
- dolebirchwood 1y ago
  Anyone with that mindset shouldn't be working anywhere near children.
  - mothballed 1y ago
    Not inviting the man in your life is an important lesson. Not the way I'd teach it, but they may have saved him a lot of jailtime or other issues teaching it to him early.
chmod775 1y ago
> but I am not sure treating school kids like adults always works out great either. This is why there is juvenile courts and juvenile justice. These "kids" are about to be adults. At some point you have to make the transition. Physically and intellectually they are already able to inflict just as much damage as most grown adults. A third grader who decides to go on a killing spree is probably not going to get very far, but a 16 year old is incredibly dangerous. Whether 16 year old teenagers should be held to higher standards than children who just learned to spell their own name is not a question: doing so is a necessity both for their own development and those they interact with.

keanb 1y ago

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ocdtrekkie 1y ago
Adults don't resolve conflicts by beating each other up. If this was your school's lesson, I'm sorry.
- dzhiurgis 1y ago
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  - vkou 1y ago
    Majority of this site, likely including you, probably don't support absolute pacifism. Unless you are on the trivial fringe that subscribes to it, the question is always not whether violence is required to protect yourself, it is at what point and against whom is violence required, and what are the rules around it. Fascists so far have a track record for at worst, killing a few million people, and at best, absolutely ruining the countries they have managed to take over. Their movements have historically not been bound by any law, including their own.
AtlasBarfed 1y ago
If you are being threatened physically and violently as an adult, to the point you fear for your life, then.... you go to "authorities". If the "authorities" don't take it seriously, you have to "protect yourself". If the threat is by a larger/stronger person or people, you even the odds with....
dolebirchwood 1y ago
Anyone with that mindset shouldn't be working anywhere near children.
- mothballed 1y ago
  Not inviting the man in your life is an important lesson. Not the way I'd teach it, but they may have saved him a lot of jailtime or other issues teaching it to him early.

chmod775 1y ago

> but I am not sure treating school kids like adults always works out great either. This is why there is juvenile courts and juvenile justice. These "kids" are about to be adults. At some point you have to make the transition. Physically and intellectually they are already able to inflict just as much damage as most grown adults. A third grader who decides to go on a killing spree is probably not going to get very far, but a 16 year old is incredibly dangerous. Whether 16 year old teenagers should be held to higher standards than children who just learned to spell their own name is not a question: doing so is a necessity both for their own development and those they interact with.