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60 should be HARD limit for any politician (including scotus)

delusional 1y ago
Why would there need to be a hard limit on something the electorate is already directly voting on? You might say every election is an election on if people above X age should be in congress.
- bushbaba 1y ago
  Aging population means that many democracies will have more old than young voters. Couple that with the American culture of f you I’ve got mine, leads to a prioritization not on the future generations.
- nomadygnt 1y ago
  Which really makes you wonder how well the system is really working. Of course I don’t know this but I feel like if you asked everyone, the majority of people would say that 95, or 90, or 85 is too old to be in congress. But somehow they keep getting reelected…
  - metabagel 1y ago
    Incumbents have an enormous advantage. We would need publicly funded elections in order to change this.
  - bearjaws 1y ago
    Almost like people vote in people of similar age. Baby boomers was the largest generation far larger than the preceding and later generation.
- femiagbabiaka 1y ago
  Because people vote for the party and not the individual in most cases.
- vladms 1y ago
  Direct voting is relative. Candidates are supported in the last 15 years also by companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC and coupled with campaigns getting more and more expensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United... that can mean that in practice it is not as direct as it might seem. Not sure what is the solution, but if people say they would prefer younger "options" and they don't materialize on the ballots, that is a sign that the system does not work as intended.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  why is my daughter (she is 12) not eligible to be a candidate in 2028? she has great ideas and is awesome all around
ricardobeat 1y ago
Benjamin Franklin would like a word with you (signed your declaration of independence at 70), as would Churchill, Picasso, Enzo Ferrari, Mother Theresa and a thousand others…
- rusk 1y ago
  Mother Theresa? Pretty sure she was young when she did most of her stuff and just aged out. Clerics don’t exactly retire … Had to double check the dates on Churchill - very impressive
  - ricardobeat 1y ago
    From a quick look at her bio: - started her first charity/hospice in India at 40 years old - real expansion of her work started after 60 years old - received a Nobel Prize at 69 - brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine at 72 - continued working until death at 87
- hermitcrab 1y ago
  Churchill probably not the best example: "In 1953, during his second stint as prime minister, Winston Churchill had a stroke after dinner. “No one seemed alarmed by [his] slurred speech and unsteadiness on his feet, one of the advantages of having a reputation for enjoying alcohol,” writes Andrew Roberts, a historian. For several weeks, as Churchill was incapable of governing, his son-in-law and private secretary in effect ran the country. He never fully recovered, yet refused to stand down until 1955, when he was 80. " https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/07/03/senility-in-high-office https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/07/03/senility-in-hi...
  - regularization 1y ago
    Yes, Churchill's second term as prime minister is not a good example. Picasso's output in his last 20 years is not considered in the same way as his previous work.
- roenxi 1y ago

Why would there need to be a hard limit on something the electorate is already directly voting on? You might say every election is an election on if people above X age should be in congress.

bushbaba 1y ago
Aging population means that many democracies will have more old than young voters. Couple that with the American culture of f you I’ve got mine, leads to a prioritization not on the future generations.
nomadygnt 1y ago
Which really makes you wonder how well the system is really working. Of course I don’t know this but I feel like if you asked everyone, the majority of people would say that 95, or 90, or 85 is too old to be in congress. But somehow they keep getting reelected…
- metabagel 1y ago
  Incumbents have an enormous advantage. We would need publicly funded elections in order to change this.
- bearjaws 1y ago
  Almost like people vote in people of similar age. Baby boomers was the largest generation far larger than the preceding and later generation.
femiagbabiaka 1y ago
Because people vote for the party and not the individual in most cases.
vladms 1y ago
Direct voting is relative. Candidates are supported in the last 15 years also by companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC and coupled with campaigns getting more and more expensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United... that can mean that in practice it is not as direct as it might seem. Not sure what is the solution, but if people say they would prefer younger "options" and they don't materialize on the ballots, that is a sign that the system does not work as intended.
bdangubic 1y ago
why is my daughter (she is 12) not eligible to be a candidate in 2028? she has great ideas and is awesome all around

ricardobeat 1y ago

Benjamin Franklin would like a word with you (signed your declaration of independence at 70), as would Churchill, Picasso, Enzo Ferrari, Mother Theresa and a thousand others…

rusk 1y ago
Mother Theresa? Pretty sure she was young when she did most of her stuff and just aged out. Clerics don’t exactly retire … Had to double check the dates on Churchill - very impressive
- ricardobeat 1y ago
  From a quick look at her bio: - started her first charity/hospice in India at 40 years old - real expansion of her work started after 60 years old - received a Nobel Prize at 69 - brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine at 72 - continued working until death at 87
hermitcrab 1y ago
Churchill probably not the best example: "In 1953, during his second stint as prime minister, Winston Churchill had a stroke after dinner. “No one seemed alarmed by [his] slurred speech and unsteadiness on his feet, one of the advantages of having a reputation for enjoying alcohol,” writes Andrew Roberts, a historian. For several weeks, as Churchill was incapable of governing, his son-in-law and private secretary in effect ran the country. He never fully recovered, yet refused to stand down until 1955, when he was 80. " https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/07/03/senility-in-high-office https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/07/03/senility-in-hi...
- regularization 1y ago
  Yes, Churchill's second term as prime minister is not a good example. Picasso's output in his last 20 years is not considered in the same way as his previous work.
roenxi 1y ago