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Imagine if they would just sell those CPUs for other use cases. Put 2x price tag if they fear losing other hardware sales.
by nicce 1y ago
Imagine if they would just sell those CPUs for other use cases. Put 2x price tag if they fear losing other hardware sales.
- commandersaki 1y agoQualcomm & Samsung kind of fill the market for high end mobile CPU though. I don't know what Apple brings to the table if their CPUs are used outside of their designs.
- CaptainOfCoit 1y ago> I don't know what Apple brings to the table if their CPUs are used outside of their designs. Sounds like Apple brings the fastest single-core CPU in the world, so if you're looking for that, it would have been nice.
- commandersaki 1y agoFair, to entertain the thought though, it'd make little sense if it was COTS due to either a loss or razor thin margins due to low demand. However nobody is stopping a hardware integrator approaching Apple to use it, but it'd probably be stupid expensive and shrouded in secrecy as Apple would not want to cede full control of its deployment due to things like Secure Enclave.
- zamadatix 1y agoI think it's less about what hardware integrators want more what Apple doesn't want. Apple tries to be as soup to nuts about their solution as possible, they don't want to piece that out to give some of the margin of the best pieces to a 3rd party trying to compete with them instead. Anything they could pay is just from revenue Apple could already target directly and keep all of to themselves.
- commandersaki 1y agoEverything has a price though. If you offered half of Apple's market cap, I'm sure they'd be changing their tune. (Yes it is an exaggeration, but my point is that there are exceptions.)
- zamadatix 1y agoThe problem lies in that Apple already gets 100% of the profit from being vertically integrated today (so the offer would not only need to be large, but more than what one could reasonably hope to make in return). If it were just that Apple had a really good CPU then both Apple and the 3rd party(ies) would be able to come to the table with a net positive deal, but vertical integration makes it so only 1 party (Apple, in this case) can come out ahead until they are dethroned for other reasons completely.
- Aurornis 1y agoThere are already CPUs from companies like Qualcomm that come close in performance and are available to anyone with a large bank account. The iPhone chips are great but even if they were 2X as fast as the competition it’s not going to open up an entire new world of use cases that don’t already exist
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- MBCook 1y agoWhat do you think goes into the M series chips in their computers? It’s the same core designs. There are more of ‘em (and GPU), not restricted by battery power, and other useful things for computers that aren’t as constrained as a phone. But they’re the same cores.
- nicce 1y agoQuite the contrary. Apple's IP cores are in-house developed and as far as we know, quite different from competitors.
- MBCook 1y agoWhat I meant was the M-series individual core designs (not full chip) are the same as their A-series cores, though they lag behind a few years. Yes, they’re completely different from what competitors have available.