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Could you elaborate? What are you referring to?

victorbjorklund 1y ago
Probably things like this: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...
- SilverElfin 1y ago
  Insane story. And a huge red flag if true. Shutting down a customer’s live websites because they’re considering a competitor is unacceptable.
  - ayhanfuat 1y ago
    I would say it was more nuanced than that. Here's the discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  Honestly yeah I also used to think about it but this was so one off of an instant and another reason why something like this happened was that there was some massive miscommunication aspects from both cloudflare and the website iirc. Yes the fault is on cf but I am pretty sure that out of all the cases of things happening on all platforms, cf has one of the lowest rates. One also has to think through that cf has a anycast platform and the website in question was a gambling platform which no matter what they say, is still a tangible risk and can cause their ip's banned. Honestly I appreciate the concern but it isn't something to be worried about tbh, Firstly this thing happened when like the company was making millions running all on cf, and mistakes happen and honestly this is the only mistake that I hear of cf except of 1000's of things in aws, gcloud etc. Miscommunication was the wrong thing here but nobody is prepared for it and I believe that cf has learnt from the instance & could be forgiven. Also they are the cheapest in the business if you use their cf workers and s3 etc., now this data platform. I guess one can have the domain be hosted somewhere else except cf too if they are this worried and things would still work iirc Another idea could be redirection of domains if they want the domain to be hosted by cf but also want some safety net. Always make some backups and be happy to migrate, Backups should be made in all platforms and these things happen everywhere don't they. Not even sure why I am shilling cf this hard but I just hate when people bring this one instance to move people away from cf.. Like tell me the alternatives dude? tell me something so simple and cheap that I can't worry about high bills like in aws or anything while having massive scale and latency using cf workers Servers are good but depending on the context y'know. If you are writing some javascript, cf workers can be insanely good for it atleast in my use cases. Cf workers also has containers which is a very interesting thing that I am looking forward to learning more about tbh.
  - OutOfHere 1y ago
    I don't know why people are so afraid of deploying open source software on their own. It literally can do most things that the major platform services can do. With AI assistance, it's not hard to deploy or to scale. When you use a company like CF, you are opening the door to a permanent lock-in, to potential compromise of all your customer data by the government, and to extortion, all of which are avoidable.
- throwaway642012 1y ago
  There are many valid criticisms of Cloudflare but this article ain’t it. That article has been debunked already. OP wanted to run an online casino and wanted to circumvent Cloudflare policies. Cloudflare simply asked them to show up with their own IP and instead OP went on to slander them.
  - OutOfHere 1y ago
    No, it hasn't. There is no excuse for what Cloudflare did which is to suddenly ask a seemingly locked-in customer for a lot more money under the threat of canceling them.
fragmede 1y ago
Cloudflare sells DDoS protection. Including to botnet operators that sell DDoS services. That's seems a bit self-serving to me.

Probably things like this: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...

SilverElfin 1y ago
Insane story. And a huge red flag if true. Shutting down a customer’s live websites because they’re considering a competitor is unacceptable.
- ayhanfuat 1y ago
  I would say it was more nuanced than that. Here's the discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808
Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
Honestly yeah I also used to think about it but this was so one off of an instant and another reason why something like this happened was that there was some massive miscommunication aspects from both cloudflare and the website iirc. Yes the fault is on cf but I am pretty sure that out of all the cases of things happening on all platforms, cf has one of the lowest rates. One also has to think through that cf has a anycast platform and the website in question was a gambling platform which no matter what they say, is still a tangible risk and can cause their ip's banned. Honestly I appreciate the concern but it isn't something to be worried about tbh, Firstly this thing happened when like the company was making millions running all on cf, and mistakes happen and honestly this is the only mistake that I hear of cf except of 1000's of things in aws, gcloud etc. Miscommunication was the wrong thing here but nobody is prepared for it and I believe that cf has learnt from the instance & could be forgiven. Also they are the cheapest in the business if you use their cf workers and s3 etc., now this data platform. I guess one can have the domain be hosted somewhere else except cf too if they are this worried and things would still work iirc Another idea could be redirection of domains if they want the domain to be hosted by cf but also want some safety net. Always make some backups and be happy to migrate, Backups should be made in all platforms and these things happen everywhere don't they. Not even sure why I am shilling cf this hard but I just hate when people bring this one instance to move people away from cf.. Like tell me the alternatives dude? tell me something so simple and cheap that I can't worry about high bills like in aws or anything while having massive scale and latency using cf workers Servers are good but depending on the context y'know. If you are writing some javascript, cf workers can be insanely good for it atleast in my use cases. Cf workers also has containers which is a very interesting thing that I am looking forward to learning more about tbh.
- OutOfHere 1y ago
  I don't know why people are so afraid of deploying open source software on their own. It literally can do most things that the major platform services can do. With AI assistance, it's not hard to deploy or to scale. When you use a company like CF, you are opening the door to a permanent lock-in, to potential compromise of all your customer data by the government, and to extortion, all of which are avoidable.
throwaway642012 1y ago
There are many valid criticisms of Cloudflare but this article ain’t it. That article has been debunked already. OP wanted to run an online casino and wanted to circumvent Cloudflare policies. Cloudflare simply asked them to show up with their own IP and instead OP went on to slander them.
- OutOfHere 1y ago
  No, it hasn't. There is no excuse for what Cloudflare did which is to suddenly ask a seemingly locked-in customer for a lot more money under the threat of canceling them.

fragmede 1y ago

Cloudflare sells DDoS protection. Including to botnet operators that sell DDoS services. That's seems a bit self-serving to me.