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> This is like saying that self-driving cars won't ever become a thing because someone behind the wheel needs to be to blame. Which is literally the case so fa
by tw04 1y ago
> This is like saying that self-driving cars won't ever become a thing because someone behind the wheel needs to be to blame.
Which is literally the case so far. No manufacturer has shown any willingness to take on the liability of self driving at any scale to date. Waymo has what? 700 cars on the road with the finances and lawyers of Google backing it.
Let me know when the bean counters sign off on fleets in the millions of vehicles.
- varenc 1y ago> Waymo has what? 700 cars on the road ... They have over 2000 on the road and are growing: https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/31/techcrunch-mobility-a-new-speed-bump-for-ev-owners-and-waymos-robotaxi-fleet-surpasses-2000/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/31/techcrunch-mobility-a-new-... Of course there's 200M+ personal vehicles registered in the US.
- baobun 1y ago(brainfart)
- cowsandmilk 1y ago2000 is only 1 of every 100,000
- kevin_thibedeau 1y agoOperating in carefully selected urban locations with no severe weather. They are nowhere close to general purpose FSD.
- newyankee 1y agoSelf driving cars in 2025 in USA is like Solar PV in China in 2010, it will take a while, but give them time to learn, adapt and expand.
- darkwater 1y agoAnd where the solar panel were in China in 2000? Because self-driving cars on public roads in USA have been a WIP for 10 years at least.
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- thr0w__4w4y 1y agoYes and I would swear that 1700 of those 2000 must be in Westwood (near UCLA in Los Angeles). I was stopped for a couple minutes waiting for a friend to come out and I counted 7 Waymos driving past me in 60 seconds. Truth be told they seemed to be driving better than the meatbags around them.
- hnaccount_rng 1y agoYou also have Mercedes taking responsibility for their traffic-jam-on-highways autopilot. But yeah. It's those two examples so far (not sure what exactly the state of Tesla is. But.. yeah, not going to spend the time to find out either)
- bberenberg 1y agoMerceds has accepted a degree of liability? https://www.prescouter.com/2024/04/mercedes-benz-level-3-drive-pilot/ https://www.prescouter.com/2024/04/mercedes-benz-level-3-dri...