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Being blocked from a web site and having to hit a little box are two different things. Are you talking about the former or the latter? If it's the former ... th

Being blocked from a web site and having to hit a little box are two different things. Are you talking about the former or the latter? If it's the former ... that has literally never happened to me unless I'm on a VPN and even then it's rarely (if ever) CF that's doing the blocking. If it's the latter then it reflects the sad truth that we can't have nice things anymoret. I have lots of problems with the accessibility of that box, but either Cloudflare would be implementing it, somebody else would be implementing it, or a huge chunk of data would be unavailable to you anyway because of accidental DDoS attacks caused by irresponsibly deployed bots.

forgotmypw17 1y ago
This has happened for me on regular residential Internet access. (Check the box, and get redirected to check the box again.)
- reitanuki 1y ago
  I hit this too, maybe on the order of one day every month or two? I'm using a fairly mainstream ISP in a fairly mainstream country. I don't get why I seem to have such a hard time. I've kept the same IP for months. But the worst thing overall is that it just doesn't acknowledge it. Want to block me? OK. But tell me that! Don't just make me tick a box again and again and untick it. It's infuriating.
inetknght 1y ago
> Being blocked from a web site and having to hit a little box are two different things. Maybe for you. But I don't let random unvetted websites run code on my computer. Checking that box requires it.
- tick_tock_tick 1y ago
  So you're blocking yourself? Seems really disingenuous to imply it's someone's fault when you know it's your own.
  - oasisaimlessly 1y ago
    Why do you keep hitting yourself? Hahah --childhood bullies
  - GoblinSlayer 1y ago
    Due to implementation chosen by Cloudflare, allowing Cloudflare also allows the proxied website to run code, because Cloudflare blends with it, but why the proxied website should be trusted if the challenge is served by Cloudflare?
  - inetknght 1y ago
    > So you're blocking yourself? That's like saying that you're blocking yourself when installing an adblocker. No, it's for safety and hygiene. > Seems really disingenuous to imply it's someone's fault That's because it is. I didn't make the web and I don't work on websites. But I have to deal with it because some fucking dumbasses decided they wanted to save some server cycles by offloading all the hard work onto the client and ruining internet safety in the process, while also offloading the cost of power and performance onto users. So if disabling javascript is what's needed to keep my safety? So be it. If it breaks some asshats' websites, then they're websites I don't want to use anyway.
- Biganon 1y ago
  May I ask what the risk is with letting websites run JS on your computer?
  - GoblinSlayer 1y ago
    The constant flow of js vulnerabilities in browsers. Also misbehaving scripts.
hsbauauvhabzb 1y ago
Infinity captchas are the most toxic thing ever. I have trouble completing many of the challenges.
justsomehnguy 1y ago
> never happened to me "Never happens to me means never happens to anyone" Also it's quite amusing what if you had got hit with an infinite captcha here then you couldn't post your comment.
- troyvit 1y ago
  > "Never happens to me means never happens to anyone" I see your point. > Also it's quite amusing what if you had got hit with an infinite captcha here then you couldn't post your comment. And you couldn't have hit me with that sick burn ;) Seriously though I see where you're coming from in that I was implying that there must be something wrong with the original person's set-up that causes this, and that is not the case. The thing is that while there's plenty of complaining about CF's approach nobody is offering a better alternative.
  - justsomehnguy 1y ago
    The thing is what CF essentially became a monopolist and if for whatever reason you are on the CF's naughty list you are essentially blocked from a lot of resources even if the resource itself pretty fine with you. And yes, there are no alternatives because guess who isvthe first one both in Google's top search and word of mouth?
viccis 1y ago
I can’t book a table at a local restaurant without calling because their resy link is behind Cloudflare and Cloudflare has decided that my up-to-date Firefox is out of date and therefore can’t pass the challenge. In reality it’s more likely that one of my ad blockers is stopping it from doing what it wants. It doesn’t even let me hit the box.
- GoblinSlayer 1y ago
  I might whitelist Cloudflare, but it pretends to be not Cloudflare, because it's MITM by design.
jasonvorhe 1y ago
It was implied that the "let's check you're human" didn't do a good job at that, causing the block - without a VPN. Meanwhile, certain bots just circumvent it (there's even a couple of videos showing robot arms/fingers prove their humaness) while legit users, even coming from Tor, get blocked. That's the internet I used to know. (I am not in the "everything was better" camp though.)

forgotmypw17 1y ago

This has happened for me on regular residential Internet access. (Check the box, and get redirected to check the box again.)

reitanuki 1y ago
I hit this too, maybe on the order of one day every month or two? I'm using a fairly mainstream ISP in a fairly mainstream country. I don't get why I seem to have such a hard time. I've kept the same IP for months. But the worst thing overall is that it just doesn't acknowledge it. Want to block me? OK. But tell me that! Don't just make me tick a box again and again and untick it. It's infuriating.

inetknght 1y ago

> Being blocked from a web site and having to hit a little box are two different things. Maybe for you. But I don't let random unvetted websites run code on my computer. Checking that box requires it.

tick_tock_tick 1y ago
So you're blocking yourself? Seems really disingenuous to imply it's someone's fault when you know it's your own.
- oasisaimlessly 1y ago
  Why do you keep hitting yourself? Hahah --childhood bullies
- GoblinSlayer 1y ago
  Due to implementation chosen by Cloudflare, allowing Cloudflare also allows the proxied website to run code, because Cloudflare blends with it, but why the proxied website should be trusted if the challenge is served by Cloudflare?
- inetknght 1y ago
  > So you're blocking yourself? That's like saying that you're blocking yourself when installing an adblocker. No, it's for safety and hygiene. > Seems really disingenuous to imply it's someone's fault That's because it is. I didn't make the web and I don't work on websites. But I have to deal with it because some fucking dumbasses decided they wanted to save some server cycles by offloading all the hard work onto the client and ruining internet safety in the process, while also offloading the cost of power and performance onto users. So if disabling javascript is what's needed to keep my safety? So be it. If it breaks some asshats' websites, then they're websites I don't want to use anyway.
Biganon 1y ago
May I ask what the risk is with letting websites run JS on your computer?
- GoblinSlayer 1y ago
  The constant flow of js vulnerabilities in browsers. Also misbehaving scripts.

hsbauauvhabzb 1y ago

Infinity captchas are the most toxic thing ever. I have trouble completing many of the challenges.

justsomehnguy 1y ago

> never happened to me "Never happens to me means never happens to anyone" Also it's quite amusing what if you had got hit with an infinite captcha here then you couldn't post your comment.

troyvit 1y ago
> "Never happens to me means never happens to anyone" I see your point. > Also it's quite amusing what if you had got hit with an infinite captcha here then you couldn't post your comment. And you couldn't have hit me with that sick burn ;) Seriously though I see where you're coming from in that I was implying that there must be something wrong with the original person's set-up that causes this, and that is not the case. The thing is that while there's plenty of complaining about CF's approach nobody is offering a better alternative.
- justsomehnguy 1y ago
  The thing is what CF essentially became a monopolist and if for whatever reason you are on the CF's naughty list you are essentially blocked from a lot of resources even if the resource itself pretty fine with you. And yes, there are no alternatives because guess who isvthe first one both in Google's top search and word of mouth?

viccis 1y ago

I can’t book a table at a local restaurant without calling because their resy link is behind Cloudflare and Cloudflare has decided that my up-to-date Firefox is out of date and therefore can’t pass the challenge. In reality it’s more likely that one of my ad blockers is stopping it from doing what it wants. It doesn’t even let me hit the box.

GoblinSlayer 1y ago
I might whitelist Cloudflare, but it pretends to be not Cloudflare, because it's MITM by design.

jasonvorhe 1y ago

It was implied that the "let's check you're human" didn't do a good job at that, causing the block - without a VPN. Meanwhile, certain bots just circumvent it (there's even a couple of videos showing robot arms/fingers prove their humaness) while legit users, even coming from Tor, get blocked. That's the internet I used to know. (I am not in the "everything was better" camp though.)