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So are we near AGI or is it 'just' an LLM? Seems like no one is clear on what these things can and cannot do anymore because everyone is being gaslighted to kee
by password54321 1y ago
So are we near AGI or is it 'just' an LLM? Seems like no one is clear on what these things can and cannot do anymore because everyone is being gaslighted to keep the investment going.
- andrewmcwatters 1y agoIt will always just be a series of models that have specific training for specific input classes. The architectural limits will always be there, regardless of training.
- beering 1y agoThat’s an interesting point. It’s not hard to imagine that LLMs are much more intelligent in areas where humans hit architectural limitations. Processing tokens seems to be a struggle for humans (look at how few animals do it overall, too), but since so much of the human brain is dedicated to movement planning, it makes sense that we still have an edge there.
- monsieurbanana 1y agoThe vast majority of people I've interacted with is clear on that, we are not near AGI. And people saying otherwise are more often than not trying to sell you something, so I just ignore them. CEO's are gonna CEO, it seems their job has morphed into creative writing to maximize funding.
- sebastiennight 1y agoAs a CEO, I endorse this message
- Cloudef 1y agoThere is no AGI. LLMs are very expensive text auto-completion engines.
- wrs 1y agoBe careful with those "no one" and "everyone" words. I think everyone I know who is a software engineer and has experience working with LLMs is quite clear on this. People who aren't SWEs, people who aren't in technology at all, and people who need to attract investment (judged only by their public statements) do seem confused, I agree.
- IanCal 1y agoNo one agrees on what agi means. IMO we’re clearly there, gpt5 would easily be considered agi years ago. I don’t think most people really get how non-general things were that are now handled by the new systems. Now agi seems to be closer to what others call asi. I think k the goalposts will keep moving.
- 9rx 1y agoDefinitions do vary, but everyone agrees that it requires autonomy. That is ultimately what sets AGI apart from AI. The GPT model alone does not offer autonomy. It only acts in response to explicit input. That's not to say that you couldn't built autonomy on top of GPT, though. In fact, that appears to be exactly what Pulse is trying to accomplish. But Microsoft and OpenAI's contractual agreements state that the autonomy must also be economically useful to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars in autonomously-created economic activity, so OpenAI will not call it as such until that time.
- gjgtcbkj 1y agoChatGPT is more antonymous than many humans. Especially poor ones and disabled ones.
- komali2 1y agoHow? Chatgpt has no autonomy - it can only act when you type into its chatbox or make an API call. A disabled person can autonomously and independently act towards the world, not just react to it.
- stanac 1y agoDoes that mean AI needs to be able to decide "what to do today"? Like wake up in the morning and decide I am going to research a problem in field X and then email all important scientist or institutions with my findings? I am not sure if we want that kind of independent agents, sounds like a beginning of a cyberpunk novel.
- bonoboTP 1y agoNobody knows how far scale goes. People have been calling the top of the S-curve for many years now, and the models keep getting better, and multimodal. In a few years, multimodal, long-term agentic models will be everywhere including in physical robots in various form factors.