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One protestor was fired after interrupting a CEO's speech.
by nashashmi 1y ago
One protestor was fired after interrupting a CEO's speech.
- keanb 1y agoAnd?
- t1amat 1y agoYou might have 1A rights as an American but it seems to me the manner in which this person protested would be grounds for termination in many jurisdictions.
- thewebguyd 1y ago1A doesn't apply to private entities anyway. 1A protects against government prosecution for your speech, and the government may make no laws "abridging the freedom of speech." But your employer? They can put whatever rules and restrictions they want on your speech, and with at-will employment, can fire you for any reason anyway, at anytime. You can say whatever you want, but you aren't free from the consequences of that speech.
- throwaway74628 1y agoThis comment sums up well how the spirit of the law is not being upheld, given that the biggest players in government, finance, and the corporate world are working together hand in glove. >”Corporations cannot exist without government intervention” >”Some privates companies and financiers are too big to fail/of strategic national importance” >”1A does not apply to private entities (including the above)” >”We have a free, competitive market” I find it very difficult to resolve these seemingly contradictory statements.
- platevoltage 1y agoLiterally nothing to do with 1A
- BrenBarn 1y agoThat's because 1A only has to do with a limited subset of the actual concept of freedom of speech.
- duxup 1y agoI feel like interrupting a CEO's speech at a big conference is pretty well understood to be a social indicator of a high level of insubordination. I suspect the protestor knew that too. The consequences were appropriate, even if I might share some of the protestor's concerns.
- snickerdoodle14 1y ago> insubordination Are we talking about the military or some company?
- duxup 1y agoI think that term can be / is used for individuals at companies.
- snickerdoodle14 1y ago[dead]
- gmueckl 1y agoUS corporate culture has a stronger sense of hierarchy than many other countries. It is an environment where one can get fired quickly and suddenly and that instills a lot of obedience and discipline (if not outright fear) in employees.
- duxup 1y agoI don't even think you need a strong sense of hierarchy. The meaning of the word would apply anywhere.
- fluoridation 1y agoLOL. The military isn't the only organization with a hierarchy.
- rkachowski 1y agoYou feel that being fired is an appropriate consequence to interrupting a CEO?
- kayodelycaon 1y agoHalf the jobs I’ve worked, I’d be immediately fired if I interrupted a CEO’s speech. The other half, I’d be in serious trouble and I’d be first on any layoff.
- cm2187 1y agoI know a story of a guy who got fired for just talking to the CEO of his large company!
- snickerdoodle14 1y agoamerica sounds like such a hell-hole that would be a nice compensation package in any first world country
- mikestew 1y agoYou’re going to base an opinion on a third-hand story? That might not even be true just to illustrate a point? I know a guy that passed BillG in a hallway and said, “hey, Bill, how’s it hangin’?” (Saw him do it; I was mortified.) Just a bottom-tier IC at the time. 20 years later, he still works there. Still an IC, though, so make of it what you will. :-) So there, now you have another folksy anecdote to balance things out.
- cm2187 1y agoWell, not quite third-hand, the guy was working in my team. But not a US company, not in the US either though.
- snickerdoodle14 1y ago[dead]
- rolph 1y agofailure to use acceptable method of interdepartmental communication ?
- mikestew 1y agoIf I interrupt the CEOs speech at a public conference, yeah, I fully expect to get canned. It’s not like this was an internal all-hands or summat.
- ecshafer 1y agoIf I did what the protestor did at an internal all-hands or summit I would expect to get canned as well. You can't go up yelling and interrupting the CEO. In an internal all-hands/summit situation you need to maintain decorum, if you have a point you wait until a QA session, then express your displeasure.
- tormeh 1y agoOh, it was an event with custoners invited? Yeah, that's grounds for dismissal anywhere, I'd think. Even in countries with strong labor laws you could just show the court the video recording of an employee doing willfull sabotage.
- progbits 1y agoOh no, is the CEO ok?