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A little more surveillance might have prevented Oct 7.
by tiahura 1y ago
A little more surveillance might have prevented Oct 7.
- emsign 1y agoOr following up the reports of suspicious behavior in Gaza by your own IDF border troops days before the terror attack.
- n1b0m 1y agoA lack of surveillance wasn’t the problem. It was not believing the intelligence. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-military-had-warning-of-hamas-training-for-attack-reports-say https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-milita...
- mrits 1y agoSuch a Monday quarterback's perspective. There is always plenty of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack
- yamazakiwi 1y agoThe amount of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack on specific places at specific times is contextual and not comparably equal. Every time I hear or read that expression, I stop taking the comment seriously because it attempts to shut down dialogue with a cute, esoteric phrase instead of fostering a discussion about a serious retrospective.
- nemomarx 1y agoNot moving troops and police away from the border might have prevented Oct 7th. I think they were more focused on the West Bank at the time.
- michens 1y ago[flagged]
- HappyPanacea 1y agoThere is no evidence whatsoever that was false flag attack. I didn't expect such blatant conspiracy theories on HN.
- nsriv 1y agohttps://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...
- Braxton1980 1y agoThis isn't evidence of a false flag attack. If I don't change the oil in my car because I'm lazy then my motor seizes I didn't "purposefully destroy my own car"
- HappyPanacea 1y agoThese two link are not "government from staging a provocation".
- dismalaf 1y agoYes, Netanyahu thought that pulling out of Gaza completely, giving them money and allowing them to hold jobs in Israel would improve their economic standing enough to make them docile enough to not attack. He was obviously wrong. And preferring them to the PLO in the wake of the second intifada was reasonable. All Palestinian groups claim to want to kill all Jews, but at that point in time the PLO had actually done it for decades. For the record, the PLO still has the pay-to-slay program...
- dragonwriter 1y agoIsrael, despite its PR, never actually took its foot off Gaza conpletely, continuing regular unprovoked cross-border killings of civilians within Gaza, among other means of exercising control and preventing economic development and activity (though for preventing economic activity specifically, other means were more significant, mainly the intermittent blockade before 2007 and the full blockade from 2007 on.)
- buyucu 1y ago[flagged]
- vFunct 1y ago[flagged]
- tiahura 1y agoI really don't care. I'm just pointing out that surveillance often means thing get nipped in the bud instead of festering and blowing up.
- fph 1y agoAh, yes, the classic argument: we must ramp up surveillance because it is the only way to stop pedophiles, terrorists, and pirates.
- buyucu 1y agoEgyptian intelligence informed Israel before October 7. Israel chose to let it happen anyway: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047 Israeli government wanted October 7 to happen, because they knew it would provide a good pretext for the genocide they wanted to commit.