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What makes me a bit uneasy about the project is that the website doesn't explain who is building it. For most open-source, I think that would be fine. But brows
by MountDoom 1y ago
What makes me a bit uneasy about the project is that the website doesn't explain who is building it. For most open-source, I think that would be fine. But browsers auto-update, so their vendors essentially have the continued ability to run code on your machine. You want some confidence that they won't get owned and won't sell the access to bad actors down the line, so there is an element of personal trust.
All the website gives me is the name of a Wyoming LLC, Wyoming being one of the states you incorporate in if you don't want others to be able to find out who runs the company.
Granted, you can find out a bit more on Github, but in general, if you're building privacy- and security-critical tech... I think you ought to own it.
- efilife 1y agoIt really isn't hard to find. I went to the browser's github page and then the repo author. https://github.com/imputnet https://github.com/imputnet I now found who exactly manages this (and it turns out colbalt, too! awesome downloader) https://github.com/wukko https://github.com/wukko https://github.com/dumbmoron https://github.com/dumbmoron
- jsheard 1y ago> and it turns out colbalt, too! And https://meow.camera https://meow.camera
- hdjrudni 1y agoOh..that's crazy. I just assumed it was the makers of Kagi search.
- esafak 1y agoThat's https://kagi.com/orion/ https://kagi.com/orion/
- SoftTalker 1y agoI’m using and loving Orion on my iPhone.
- jmbwell 1y agoMy daily driver on macOS now for almost a year. Very happy with it.
- biotinker 1y agoYou found the authors' screen names and some other things they've made. That's not finding who they are. No one has signed their names, like their real names, to this. Who are they? Intelligence agents? For which country? There's no way to know.
- ambicapter 1y agoBut their chosen public pseudonym is "dumbmoron". Surely we can fully trust them!
- strus 1y ago> For which country? At least one of the authors is Russian. They were giving away Helium stickers to “anyone who is in Moscow”, and not many non-Russians are traveling there nowadays.
- tempaccount420 1y agoI think that's wukko (either that or both authors are Russian)
- zenmac 1y agoWell it is just one those element naming chrome fork. Kinda like: https://iridiumbrowser.de/ https://iridiumbrowser.de/ But that one looks have not being updated in a while. But what is the point forking Chrome browser now days since manifest 3? I switched back to firefox/librawolf for now.
- snapplebobapple 1y agoTry zen browser its my favorite firefox fork with only a few extensions
- atraac 1y agoI tried using Zen as I moved away from Arc, it really tries to be Arc but had a ton of issues at the time(6 months ago). Ranging from performance, different parts of UI crashing or behaving weirdly, to typos in English translations all over Settings. I settled on Brave for now because I won't give up uBlock Origin but I also didn't enjoy using Firefox long term for some reason. I honestly loved Arc, but I won't use product they won't work on anymore.
- snapplebobapple 1y agoBrave is a good option too. I use brave for websites that are too junk to work in firefox. I have never used arc. I was coming from librewolf/floorp with sidebery. I really like the layout in zen, it hasnt shown the performance issues i sometimes saw in stock firefox and the vertical tab bar is good enough yo replace sidebery for me. Tge only annoyance ia how it sometomes weirdly display extensions in the truncated interface. Otger than that i am pretty happy.
- cwillu 1y agoFor what it's worth: “All Chromium extensions are supported and work right away, by default, including all MV2 extensions. We'll keep support for MV2 extensions for as long as possible.” Whether that's worth much is of course another matter.
- adrr 1y agoWho is paying for it?
- alpb 1y agoAgreed, and my concern is not a "NSA is monitoring my activity" but more along the lines of whether they have enough funding to staff security research and response for this browser.
- ha1zum 1y agoExactly my concern as well
- Tepix 1y agoMy thoughts exactly. I read on their website that they're a two person team who care about privacy. But how do they finance their work on these tools? Are they still figuring it out? Do they have a sustainable business model?