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Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 is coming to Playstation 5 on December 8th

59 points by blinky88 1y ago

M95D 1y ago
Can we simulate/replay Boeing crashes?
HardwareLust 1y ago
Sweet! I wonder how well it will perform vs. Xbox Series X.
- kyriakos 1y ago
  Probably the same. Hardware differences between the two consoles are negligible.
doener 1y ago
Does this mean Microsoft has officially given up completely on Xbox?
- doctorpangloss 1y ago
  Like Google gave up on Stadia? There's a chance. It ships Windows on lots of computers and also makes the Surface. So hard to say with looser criteria too. But. Yeah, they have.
- Mistletoe 1y ago
  Well…. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1np99za/costco_new_zealand_clearing_out_their_xbox_stock/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1np99za/costco_new_...
- jsheard 1y ago
  They gave up on permanent exclusivity a while ago, this isn't the first game they've let slip to Playstation. The rule of thumb is now that MS games launch on both Xbox and PC then go to Playstation after a year or so, Sony games only launch on Playstation then go to PC after a year or so, but never Xbox, and Nintendo exclusives are still forever aside from some weird China-only deals.
  - MYEUHD 1y ago
    > Sony games only launch on Playstation then go to PC after a year or so, but never Xbox Actually, Helldivers 2 was brought to Xbox 1.5 years after the PS5 / Windows release. But that's a live service game, so more players = a better experience.
- Lammy 1y ago
  XBOX has outlived its usefulness now that all the anti-General-Purpose-Computing “““Security””” bullshit has metastasized fully-formed over to regular PCs after incubating for twenty years in console-land. They knew people would protest that stuff if they tried to develop it natively on PC, but nobody bats an eye when they lock down some appliance machine whose exclusive software “needs” to be protected.
ViktorRay 1y ago
Xbox Series X is 5 years old. PlayStation 5 is 5 years old. I’m sure the PlayStation 6 is around the corner. PS5 came out 7 years after PS4 so PS6 should be coming within a couple years. Now that Microsoft has seemingly abandoned exclusives why would anyone grab the next gen Xbox console when it comes out in a couple years? Seems like PlayStation 6 is the only viable option.
- deleted 1y ago
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- nvllsvm 1y ago
  Not a TV console, but there is a handheld "Xbox" releasing next month. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/handhelds/rog-xbox-ally https://www.xbox.com/en-US/handhelds/rog-xbox-ally My guess is they'll continue to improve handheld and TV experiences in Windows and leverage third-parties to make the hardware.
  - simlevesque 1y ago
    They still didn't say the prices for it. such a weird launch.
    - safeimp 1y ago
      It likely has to do with tariff fluidity.
- jowday 1y ago
  I’m sure there’ll be a PS6, but it honestly seems like non-portable consoles are on their way out. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no next-gen TV console XBox at all, or if it’s just a MS branded gaming PC.
  - bitwize 1y ago
    I keep hearing rumors that this is 100% correct. The PS6 will be a handheld like the Switch; the next Xbox is the "ASUS Xbox Ally".
mentos 1y ago
No mention of PSVR? Seems ripe for that. edit: coming to PSVR 2026 via free update Cool, I’ve never tried PSVR how does it compare to say Quest 2/3?
- jsheard 1y ago
  The Xbox doesn't have VR support so letting the Playstation version have it would be a bit awkward.
  - afturner 1y ago
    > PS VR2 owners will be able to experience the entire game through their headset and Sense controllers with a free update that will be available in 2026 https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-soars-onto-playstation-5/ https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2...
    - jsheard 1y ago
      Awkward for Microsoft then, but welcome!
      - bigyabai 1y ago
        I think people overestimate the awkwardness, here. Microsoft just wants to sell game copies - if they make money selling a really cool experience to Playstation owners, it's a win-win. We would know if Microsoft was envious of the PSVR sales numbers, by now. They already support the game in Windows Mixed Reality, and the VR is already playable on non-Microsoft platforms through Proton. This seems like a really cool gesture from a dedicated software team that didn't want PS5 owners to feel disappointed buying Microsoft games.
      - J_McQuade 1y ago
        More awkward for Sony, maybe, as this is showing more support for PSVR2 than they have in a while.
behnamoh 1y ago
Welp, that was the only reason to get XBOX, now I'm convinced I won't buy neither PS5 nor XBOX :) Seriously, how hard is it to DIY your own console? It's just a PC afterall.
- bigmadshoe 1y ago
  Not sure if this is still the case but they used to subsidize the console hardware and recoup the loss on games.
- Svoka 1y ago
  If you can afford PC, both in effort, time and money - it is obviously better choice. Two years ago I saw a cool game, Helldivers 2. It looked like a lot of fun but my old PC was not up to the task. I went to the store, got PS5 and in couple hours I was enjoying the game. It is so much fun, and so little hustle that I honestly can't imagine going back.
  - serf 1y ago
    you were just setup a different way; I haven't owned a TV in like 15 years, if I wanted to jump into a console it'd be just about as much effort as building a gaming PC for me. I would need to start reading TV reviews, re-arrange the living room, etc. I mean, yeah, I am not going to need to worry about resolution and graphics options as much, now I just need to figure out how to ad-block a smart TV and pay a new subscription fee (probably) . My point : convenience is all relative.
- tombert 1y ago
  Not hard at all, really. My main "game console" for the last year and some change has been one of those tiny gaming PCs you can get on Amazon for about $400. I installed ChimeraOS on there and got it set up with the SteamOS thing in about an hour. I don't play a lot of cutting-edge new stuff, but I do have a lot of Windows games and Proton seems to handle them all just fine. The SteamOS interface works great even with a gamepad. I even use Xbox gamepads to drive it.
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bhasi 1y ago
So excited for this!
kkaske 1y ago
My guess is that Microsoft is recalibrating its “console as loss leader + ecosystem monetization” model. This would indicate that they’ll lean harder on services, cross-play, etc. on all platforms.
Wonnk13 1y ago
wow; I'm not a gamer at all. never owned a console since my parents bought one for my brother and myself over two decades ago. I might (5-15% chance) pick up a ps5 just for flightsim and the new GTA. RIP xbox
zac23or 1y ago
People are complaining about the price of games, about Microsoft giving up exclusivity on some games... I've seen this happen in many markets. When no one uses the internet and annual growth is 1,000%, everyone tries to attract an audience. Free internet access, free email, etc. Big budgets are very encouraging in growing markets (Sony surpassed Concord with a budget of 600 million, according to some sources). It's a gold rush. When the market stops growing, everything free disappears and everyone tries to make money in every way. Some numbers in the gaming market probably indicate the end of growth, so prices are starting to rise more sharply. The price of older consoles hasn't dropped, the end of exclusivity (having access to more people with the same game), you have to pay to access online games, etc. The idea is to squeeze every penny out of every player. This is also happening with streaming now. The big risk is pushing too hard and losing the audience. I have no idea what will happen, but I bet piracy will increase significantly in the coming years, and the industry will start trying to discontinue older games and eliminate cheap ways to play, forcing cloud gaming. Mobile games are a different story; they're essentially a casino disguised as gambling, making money off of sick people (the whales). Maybe Steam will be the last refuge from all this. Or it will become the same thing...
daft_pink 1y ago
if it could just come to mac and quest 3
amai 1y ago
Who needs a gaming console if one can simply use Geforce Now nowadays: https://play.geforcenow.com/ https://play.geforcenow.com/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/how-to-play/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/how-to-play/ MS flight simulator is available there for a long time already.

59 points by blinky88 1y ago

M95D 1y ago

Can we simulate/replay Boeing crashes?

HardwareLust 1y ago

Sweet! I wonder how well it will perform vs. Xbox Series X.

kyriakos 1y ago
Probably the same. Hardware differences between the two consoles are negligible.

doener 1y ago

Does this mean Microsoft has officially given up completely on Xbox?

doctorpangloss 1y ago
Like Google gave up on Stadia? There's a chance. It ships Windows on lots of computers and also makes the Surface. So hard to say with looser criteria too. But. Yeah, they have.
Mistletoe 1y ago
Well…. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1np99za/costco_new_zealand_clearing_out_their_xbox_stock/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1np99za/costco_new_...
jsheard 1y ago
They gave up on permanent exclusivity a while ago, this isn't the first game they've let slip to Playstation. The rule of thumb is now that MS games launch on both Xbox and PC then go to Playstation after a year or so, Sony games only launch on Playstation then go to PC after a year or so, but never Xbox, and Nintendo exclusives are still forever aside from some weird China-only deals.
- MYEUHD 1y ago
  > Sony games only launch on Playstation then go to PC after a year or so, but never Xbox Actually, Helldivers 2 was brought to Xbox 1.5 years after the PS5 / Windows release. But that's a live service game, so more players = a better experience.
Lammy 1y ago
XBOX has outlived its usefulness now that all the anti-General-Purpose-Computing “““Security””” bullshit has metastasized fully-formed over to regular PCs after incubating for twenty years in console-land. They knew people would protest that stuff if they tried to develop it natively on PC, but nobody bats an eye when they lock down some appliance machine whose exclusive software “needs” to be protected.

ViktorRay 1y ago

Xbox Series X is 5 years old. PlayStation 5 is 5 years old. I’m sure the PlayStation 6 is around the corner. PS5 came out 7 years after PS4 so PS6 should be coming within a couple years. Now that Microsoft has seemingly abandoned exclusives why would anyone grab the next gen Xbox console when it comes out in a couple years? Seems like PlayStation 6 is the only viable option.

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nvllsvm 1y ago
Not a TV console, but there is a handheld "Xbox" releasing next month. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/handhelds/rog-xbox-ally https://www.xbox.com/en-US/handhelds/rog-xbox-ally My guess is they'll continue to improve handheld and TV experiences in Windows and leverage third-parties to make the hardware.
- simlevesque 1y ago
  They still didn't say the prices for it. such a weird launch.
  - safeimp 1y ago
    It likely has to do with tariff fluidity.
jowday 1y ago
I’m sure there’ll be a PS6, but it honestly seems like non-portable consoles are on their way out. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no next-gen TV console XBox at all, or if it’s just a MS branded gaming PC.
- bitwize 1y ago
  I keep hearing rumors that this is 100% correct. The PS6 will be a handheld like the Switch; the next Xbox is the "ASUS Xbox Ally".

mentos 1y ago

No mention of PSVR? Seems ripe for that. edit: coming to PSVR 2026 via free update Cool, I’ve never tried PSVR how does it compare to say Quest 2/3?

jsheard 1y ago
The Xbox doesn't have VR support so letting the Playstation version have it would be a bit awkward.
- afturner 1y ago
  > PS VR2 owners will be able to experience the entire game through their headset and Sense controllers with a free update that will be available in 2026 https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-soars-onto-playstation-5/ https://www.flightsimulator.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2...
  - jsheard 1y ago
    Awkward for Microsoft then, but welcome!
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      I think people overestimate the awkwardness, here. Microsoft just wants to sell game copies - if they make money selling a really cool experience to Playstation owners, it's a win-win. We would know if Microsoft was envious of the PSVR sales numbers, by now. They already support the game in Windows Mixed Reality, and the VR is already playable on non-Microsoft platforms through Proton. This seems like a really cool gesture from a dedicated software team that didn't want PS5 owners to feel disappointed buying Microsoft games.
    - J_McQuade 1y ago
      More awkward for Sony, maybe, as this is showing more support for PSVR2 than they have in a while.

behnamoh 1y ago

Welp, that was the only reason to get XBOX, now I'm convinced I won't buy neither PS5 nor XBOX :) Seriously, how hard is it to DIY your own console? It's just a PC afterall.

bigmadshoe 1y ago
Not sure if this is still the case but they used to subsidize the console hardware and recoup the loss on games.
Svoka 1y ago
If you can afford PC, both in effort, time and money - it is obviously better choice. Two years ago I saw a cool game, Helldivers 2. It looked like a lot of fun but my old PC was not up to the task. I went to the store, got PS5 and in couple hours I was enjoying the game. It is so much fun, and so little hustle that I honestly can't imagine going back.
- serf 1y ago
  you were just setup a different way; I haven't owned a TV in like 15 years, if I wanted to jump into a console it'd be just about as much effort as building a gaming PC for me. I would need to start reading TV reviews, re-arrange the living room, etc. I mean, yeah, I am not going to need to worry about resolution and graphics options as much, now I just need to figure out how to ad-block a smart TV and pay a new subscription fee (probably) . My point : convenience is all relative.
tombert 1y ago
Not hard at all, really. My main "game console" for the last year and some change has been one of those tiny gaming PCs you can get on Amazon for about $400. I installed ChimeraOS on there and got it set up with the SteamOS thing in about an hour. I don't play a lot of cutting-edge new stuff, but I do have a lot of Windows games and Proton seems to handle them all just fine. The SteamOS interface works great even with a gamepad. I even use Xbox gamepads to drive it.
- deleted 1y ago

bhasi 1y ago

So excited for this!

kkaske 1y ago

My guess is that Microsoft is recalibrating its “console as loss leader + ecosystem monetization” model. This would indicate that they’ll lean harder on services, cross-play, etc. on all platforms.

Wonnk13 1y ago

wow; I'm not a gamer at all. never owned a console since my parents bought one for my brother and myself over two decades ago. I might (5-15% chance) pick up a ps5 just for flightsim and the new GTA. RIP xbox

zac23or 1y ago

People are complaining about the price of games, about Microsoft giving up exclusivity on some games... I've seen this happen in many markets. When no one uses the internet and annual growth is 1,000%, everyone tries to attract an audience. Free internet access, free email, etc. Big budgets are very encouraging in growing markets (Sony surpassed Concord with a budget of 600 million, according to some sources). It's a gold rush. When the market stops growing, everything free disappears and everyone tries to make money in every way. Some numbers in the gaming market probably indicate the end of growth, so prices are starting to rise more sharply. The price of older consoles hasn't dropped, the end of exclusivity (having access to more people with the same game), you have to pay to access online games, etc. The idea is to squeeze every penny out of every player. This is also happening with streaming now. The big risk is pushing too hard and losing the audience. I have no idea what will happen, but I bet piracy will increase significantly in the coming years, and the industry will start trying to discontinue older games and eliminate cheap ways to play, forcing cloud gaming. Mobile games are a different story; they're essentially a casino disguised as gambling, making money off of sick people (the whales). Maybe Steam will be the last refuge from all this. Or it will become the same thing...

daft_pink 1y ago

if it could just come to mac and quest 3

amai 1y ago

Who needs a gaming console if one can simply use Geforce Now nowadays: https://play.geforcenow.com/ https://play.geforcenow.com/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/how-to-play/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/how-to-play/ MS flight simulator is available there for a long time already.