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I already asked below, how and where does it break? Hacker News is fully selectable, and still fully useable with the keyboard. > it's not that onerous to typ
by whstl 1y ago
I already asked below, how and where does it break?
Hacker News is fully selectable, and still fully useable with the keyboard.
> it's not that onerous to type it.
Yes it is, if I don't even know what the letters are. Not every country uses the latin alphabet. And not every people coming to latin-alphabet countries know what those letters are.
- catapart 1y agoGive me an example of a real-world use case where this caused you an issue, and I'll show you where their UX design is poorly made, rather than a need for selectable text in a clickable element.
- whstl 1y agoSure, I had one recently. There is a certain page of one of the Bundesagentur für Arbeit websites that doesn't play well with automatic translation. I speak B2 level German, but even then some of the technical terms are still complicated or unknown for me. This included one very long German word that was in a BIG RED button and the text in the big red button was not selectable, in the manner described in the article.
- catapart 1y ago> that doesn't play well with automatic translation. I think I found your problem. Not sure why you think the solution is to make everything work worse for keyboard users.
- whstl 1y agoAnd you still haven't explained why normal-selectable websites like HN itself are bad for keyboard users.
- anthk 1y agoI use HN from Links daily, on a terminal. It's perfectly usable.
- TeMPOraL 1y agoThat's cheating. Terminal is in a sense the ultimate accessibility viewer, but few things work with existing terminal browsers I know of. Makes me wonder though, if anyone tried to take a SOTA screen reader/accessibility software, and use it to re-render the page purely from the "how the screen reader sees it" perspective (obviously with selectable text)?
- Ukv 1y agoWorse in what way? For keyboard use, I want text to be selectable, since I'll often use shift + arrow keys while reading.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agoHacker news isn't "fully selectable". Just try to highlight the text in the reply/update/submit buttons.
- dylan604 1y agoI can select the word "Reply" with no issues
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agoInside the button? Not the link? What OS/Browser?
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- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agoI just tried this with every major OS and browser. I don't think it is possible. You can highlight the buttons (most times) in Safari on MacOS, but you can't select the text and copy it or translate it.
- whstl 1y agoYou can copy <button>Text</button> in some browsers, but not when it's in <input text="Text">.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agoYeah, in HN's case: <input value="reply" type="submit">
- dylan604 1y agoSorry, you're correct. It was the link not the button. My brain gets confused talking to people using technical words correctly instead of normies that call the link a button