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So it looks like a self resolving problem? As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, and hopefully kids will be encouraged to do mor

So it looks like a self resolving problem? As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, and hopefully kids will be encouraged to do more creative activities than kicking a ball.

zokier 1y ago
On the other hand kids (and adults) not getting enough exercise is a modern health crisis. More kids kicking a ball would be significant improvement over current status quo of kids staring at brainrot.
- NickC25 1y ago
  agree. im american and i see a bunch of youth in major cities who are clearly unhealthy. sport should be encouraged. i get that not everyone likes it, and not everyone will enjoy it (and even fewer will be good enough to actually enjoy it), but encouraging physical activity instead of playing on phones is a good thing. i was a nerd growing up (still am) and i sucked at sports (still do). i still enjoyed doing them and knew that physical activity was beneficial.
aeve890 1y ago
I agree with all you said except the last part. Sport is good and team sport is better. A "lifestyle guru" should know that. Kicking a ball is maybe the lowest entry barrier sport in many countries. I'm from latin america and here you grow playing fútbol. Find a ball, gather your friends and you're ready to go.
dnh44 1y ago
you don't think kids should play sports? that seems like an unusual view and am kind of curious why you would think that.
- lifestyleguru 1y ago
  Kick a ball, throw a ball, hit a ball, jump over the ball, stick a ball somewhere. A ball, a stick, a ring, a board. I hate that football is the default sport and was forced myself to play it in my childhood.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    Look, I disliked football for the reason that it made me an outcast. All males in my class in elementary school played football on a regular basis. I did not. It made me associate more with another guy (only 1, yeah) and girls. It made me just pick up a book and read while others were playing sports (happened to be football). ... but I did make myself an outcast as I was growing up as I would rather use my PC (for programming) than go outside.
  - sofixa 1y ago
    > I hate that football is the default sport It is the default sport because the barrier to entry is basically having a ball. Random rocks, backpacks, whatever you have can serve as the goalposts. Most other sports require other equipment too (volleyball needs the net, basketball the hoop, etc. etc.). It's also easy to understand, and being the most popular sport by far in most countries, allows for an easy appropriation to a community and sense of belonging. > was forced myself to play it in my childhood So you're just trauma dumping your childhood issues?
    - riffraff 1y ago
      also football can be played in basically any number, from 1:1 to 11:11, which means you can go out with a ball, meet one other kid and play, and random other kids can just join in. I've literally seen kids unable to speak with each other because of different languages able to join a match :) I was terrible at football as a kid so it's not like it did much for me, but one cannot deny how universal the game is.
      - sofixa 1y ago
        That's true. It's not unique to football (same can be applied to basketball and volleyball and etc.) but it's one more advantage.
CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
> As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions? They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme. If you've hanged out with people who are proud to be hooligans and ultras today, you'd see how removing football wouldn't get them to stop.
- watwut 1y ago
  > You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions? It is not an outlet for emotions that would need to be expressed similarly. It on itself creates emotions and social structures that make those expressions violent. > They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme. Some of them will, some of them wont. They wont be in such a large pack in the same place at the same time. There will be less peer pressure to participate in these groups on young men and less validation. They will have much harder time to organize too.
bilekas 1y ago
Given your username I wouldn't expect such harsh sentiment about people who enjoy playing football. I would prefer my kids play a sport they enjoy than sit on an iPad all day. But I'm not a lifestyle guru.
- lifestyleguru 1y ago
  European football is more about gambling, betting, and drug trafficking than about sport.
  - sofixa 1y ago
    Utter nonsense. It's about sport and community. Yeah, the Bulgarian football scene is dominated by the mafia and gambling, but that's the exception, not the norm.
    - lifestyleguru 1y ago
      Polish football is mafia an gambling, one of the largest Greek companies is... football prognostic agency. Spanish players are millionaires in early 20s while others get 10% unemployment and if lucky salary 1200 euro. European football is cesspit.
CuriouslyC 1y ago
Hooligans won't go away with football, they'll just find another outlet for their suppressed beta male rage and weak minded tribalism.
codedokode 1y ago
Kicking a ball is fun though. However I am not interested in watching pros kicking a ball.

zokier 1y ago

On the other hand kids (and adults) not getting enough exercise is a modern health crisis. More kids kicking a ball would be significant improvement over current status quo of kids staring at brainrot.

NickC25 1y ago
agree. im american and i see a bunch of youth in major cities who are clearly unhealthy. sport should be encouraged. i get that not everyone likes it, and not everyone will enjoy it (and even fewer will be good enough to actually enjoy it), but encouraging physical activity instead of playing on phones is a good thing. i was a nerd growing up (still am) and i sucked at sports (still do). i still enjoyed doing them and knew that physical activity was beneficial.

aeve890 1y ago

I agree with all you said except the last part. Sport is good and team sport is better. A "lifestyle guru" should know that. Kicking a ball is maybe the lowest entry barrier sport in many countries. I'm from latin america and here you grow playing fútbol. Find a ball, gather your friends and you're ready to go.

dnh44 1y ago

you don't think kids should play sports? that seems like an unusual view and am kind of curious why you would think that.

lifestyleguru 1y ago
Kick a ball, throw a ball, hit a ball, jump over the ball, stick a ball somewhere. A ball, a stick, a ring, a board. I hate that football is the default sport and was forced myself to play it in my childhood.
- johnisgood 1y ago
  Look, I disliked football for the reason that it made me an outcast. All males in my class in elementary school played football on a regular basis. I did not. It made me associate more with another guy (only 1, yeah) and girls. It made me just pick up a book and read while others were playing sports (happened to be football). ... but I did make myself an outcast as I was growing up as I would rather use my PC (for programming) than go outside.
- sofixa 1y ago
  > I hate that football is the default sport It is the default sport because the barrier to entry is basically having a ball. Random rocks, backpacks, whatever you have can serve as the goalposts. Most other sports require other equipment too (volleyball needs the net, basketball the hoop, etc. etc.). It's also easy to understand, and being the most popular sport by far in most countries, allows for an easy appropriation to a community and sense of belonging. > was forced myself to play it in my childhood So you're just trauma dumping your childhood issues?
  - riffraff 1y ago
    also football can be played in basically any number, from 1:1 to 11:11, which means you can go out with a ball, meet one other kid and play, and random other kids can just join in. I've literally seen kids unable to speak with each other because of different languages able to join a match :) I was terrible at football as a kid so it's not like it did much for me, but one cannot deny how universal the game is.
    - sofixa 1y ago
      That's true. It's not unique to football (same can be applied to basketball and volleyball and etc.) but it's one more advantage.

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago

> As a bonus football hooligans and football vandalism will disappear, You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions? They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme. If you've hanged out with people who are proud to be hooligans and ultras today, you'd see how removing football wouldn't get them to stop.

watwut 1y ago
> You think these people would suddenly stop needing an outlet for their emotions? It is not an outlet for emotions that would need to be expressed similarly. It on itself creates emotions and social structures that make those expressions violent. > They'll find a different way of doing the same thing, around a different theme. Some of them will, some of them wont. They wont be in such a large pack in the same place at the same time. There will be less peer pressure to participate in these groups on young men and less validation. They will have much harder time to organize too.

bilekas 1y ago

Given your username I wouldn't expect such harsh sentiment about people who enjoy playing football. I would prefer my kids play a sport they enjoy than sit on an iPad all day. But I'm not a lifestyle guru.

lifestyleguru 1y ago
European football is more about gambling, betting, and drug trafficking than about sport.
- sofixa 1y ago
  Utter nonsense. It's about sport and community. Yeah, the Bulgarian football scene is dominated by the mafia and gambling, but that's the exception, not the norm.
  - lifestyleguru 1y ago
    Polish football is mafia an gambling, one of the largest Greek companies is... football prognostic agency. Spanish players are millionaires in early 20s while others get 10% unemployment and if lucky salary 1200 euro. European football is cesspit.

CuriouslyC 1y ago

Hooligans won't go away with football, they'll just find another outlet for their suppressed beta male rage and weak minded tribalism.

codedokode 1y ago

Kicking a ball is fun though. However I am not interested in watching pros kicking a ball.