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DevBootCamp: Learn Ruby on Rails in 9 Weeks
- irollboozers 14y agoI'm really jealous of the folks who can do this. Unfortunately, I feel like young people will not be able to afford this. Which makes me wonder, what's the average age of people attending? Despite being really jealous for how easy this makes it look to 'learn to be a hacker', I personally will stick to the Zed Shaw school of learning.
- dladowitz 14y agoI just finished the summer class. I think the average age was somewhere between 25-28 yrs old.
- aidscholar 14y agoAnyone know if there is something similar for people who can't attend during work hours (but willing to put in a full shift after work/weekends)?
- mattnguyen 14y agobloc.io
- ProfessorNipple 14y agoDid DBC do away with the payment plan for tuition?
- lachyg 14y agoWow! Didn't expect to see this here for a while. We've just finished redeveloping the entire Dev Bootcamp website. Still a few kinks to iron out, especially for smaller screen sizes. We'll be making it responsive. Chris Jennings (from http://chrisjennings.com http://chrisjennings.com) did all the creative work. I'm more than happy to answer any questions about Dev Bootcamp, but I think this does a good job at tackling a few of them: http://www.quora.com/Programming-Bootcamps/Other-than-location-what-are-the-differences-between-the-various-developer-bootcamps-with-physical-locations-in-the-US/answer/Lachy-Groom?__snids__=57020605#ans1528745 http://www.quora.com/Programming-Bootcamps/Other-than-locati...
- elmuchoprez 14y agoI'd be curious why RoR (not that I disagree with that decision)? Did you find a competitive advantage over say PHP or Python? Is it easier to teach? More job opportunities? Picked out of a hat?
- jfarmer 14y agoHi there! I'm a teacher at Dev Bootcamp. I'll quote my answer to this question on Quora (http://b.qr.ae/QkkZtu http://b.qr.ae/QkkZtu), "Are there any programming bootcamps like Dev Bootcamp or Bloc.io that are Python/Django focused?" The tl;dr is "No, not really. It's the right mix between what we know and a good beginner language." The language and technologies you learn are not the most important bit when it comes to becoming a programmer. When friends ask me whether they should learn Ruby or Python I respond by asking "Which language do more of your friends know?" Motivation, frustration tolerance, social support, and access to expertise are all more important than the raw language when you're trying to become a programmer. Python, Ruby, C#, Clojure, Objective-C, etc. are just means to that end. Consider this: if you speak Ruby, understand the fundamentals of software engineering, and maintain a beginner's mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin) then it will take weeks -- if not days -- to reach the same level of competence in Python. Dev Bootcamp focuses on Ruby, Rails, and JavaScript, for example, but two students from our most recent class received job offers from Hipmunk, a Python shop. Some students from the spring work at companies where most of the code they write is Java or PHP. IMO a good programming bootcamp aims to teach you to program as if it were teaching you English poetry. Knowing a particular language, whether it's Python or anything else, is like knowing how to write in English. To be sure, you have to know how to write English before you can write English poetry, but that's the smallest part of being a poet.
- bjoyce1 14y agoDisclaimer: I'm heading out to DBC to join the Fall Cohort! The revamp looks fantastic. The home page and the video give a great explanation as to why devbootcamp can be of such benefit. No time wasters needed. People who are willing to put in the hours and get the work done. The FAQ gives a good insight into what it's all about. A coherent well put together targeted approach to learning web development. I'm sure DBC will be as engaging as the new website is.
- kapilkale 14y agoThe caliber of companies interested in Dev Bootcamp grads is promising for their model. I'm curious about how employers have felt about the engineers they've hired from such services vs fresh / semi-experienced engineers with CS degrees.
- lachyg 14y agoJeff Dickey (http://dickey.xxx/dev-bootcamp http://dickey.xxx/dev-bootcamp), an engineer at TapJoy attended our hiring day. They ended up hiring 7 of our grads.
- writeclick 14y agoAs a Fall cohort myself, this is exciting!
- kapilkale 14y agoThanks, exactly what I was looking for. I'd consider distilling Jeff's content and putting it on your employers page.
- flatline3 14y ago9 weeks isn't enough time for anyone to be learning how to write production-quality code, much less take a job as anything more than an engineering intern. The fact that TapJoy is hiring people straight out of DevBootCamp makes me seriously question the quality of their engineering organization, rather than causing me to think highly of DevBootCamp (which may be an excellent program).
- dladowitz 14y agoI'm a Dev Bootcamp grad from the summer program. I also just got hired on at Tapjoy. Can I write production-quality code? Probably not just yet. What I do know is that Tapjoy isn't the only company hiring grads. In the last 4 weeks since graduating about 20 people have been hired as Jr Ruby Developers at multiple companies. Every single one of them had to go through technical interviews to get the positions. Many companies have decided the grads have enough real knowledge to be valuable. Average salary has been somewhere around $84,000.
- D9u 14y agoNo mobile layout? Tsk tsk!
- photoGrant 14y agoAnd I still don't know how much it costs.
- lachyg 14y agoIf you click "Tuition" (second from right) it explains the pricing.
- photoGrant 14y agoThere we go, thank you!
- lsiebert 14y agoWell I like the site. I don't suppose there are any plans to have additional campuses in the bay area?
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- crazypyro 14y agoAll of the mics on the video only come out on my left speaker. The music comes out both...
- suter 14y agoThis site is absolutely beautiful. Well done. I'd love to know a little more about the tools (generators?) that were used as it appears to be a completely static site.
- jfarmer 14y agoIt's hosted on GitHub Pages and generated with Jekyll. We also use CloudFlare for our CDN and other asset optimization. * http://pages.github.com/ http://pages.github.com/ * https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll * https://www.cloudflare.com https://www.cloudflare.com
- nhangen 14y agoLooked neat, and then I saw this: "You qualify for a $500 scholarship if you're female or from an ethnic minority group underrepresented in the software engineering field (African American, Chicano/Latino, Native American, Pacific Islander, etc.). The tech world is notoriously unrepresentative of the larger population. We believe that the sooner that changes, the better off we all are." How is that not discrimination?
- xiaoma 14y agoIt absolutely is discrimination, but it's a form of discrimination that many (most?) here approve of.
- getsat 14y agoWow. They could have saved space and just said "(not White, Asian, or Indian)".
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- unit_testing 14y agoYou're right. People with dwarfism are disproportionally not software developers, too, but it's not trendy to care about them, so DevBootCamp doesn't care. Transgender people are disproportionally not software developers, but it's not trendy to care about them, so DevBootCamp doesn't care. White males born into poverty are disproportionally not software developers, but it's not trendy to care about them, so DevBootCamp doesn't care. Hey, DevBootCamp: What makes an affluent latina more important to you than an impoverished white male? What makes an affluent white woman more important to you than an impoverished Indian with dwarfism? Your organization is toxic. Go away.
- bgilroy26 14y agoHey, I'm not the biggest "diversity" cheerleader in the world, but I think this criticism is over the top. There is a significant difference between an organization's stated rules and what you can make a phone call and get just for trying. If you belong to the category of not being a white or Asian man, give it a shot. Being a sourpuss precludes working with people and figuring out what makes sense together. It isn't a good idea.
- at-fates-hands 14y agoHow do employers weight this kind of experience when considering a graduate of this program? I'm sure there's a lot of companies in around SF who already know DevBootCamp, but what about employers outside of California?
- dpritchett 14y agoI'm sure the right employers love it. These are literally the least pricy Rubyists available in the U.S. that can be proven to actually know how to code. Good fit for a fast growing Ruby shop that is not too picky about depth of technical skills.
- ionwake 14y agoI am a bit of a newb to this site - I just wanted to thank you for a JS explanation you gave me 104 days ago. cheers! = ) dpritchett 104 days ago | link | parent