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> in federal pounding-in-the-ass prison Ha ha ha, it's so funny and harmless to make fun of people in prison, because they all deserve it, right? And the US is

by bambax 1y ago

> in federal pounding-in-the-ass prison Ha ha ha, it's so funny and harmless to make fun of people in prison, because they all deserve it, right? And the US is a free country? Sorry but this just makes me incredibly angry.

pessimizer 1y ago
It's simply bizarre that dreams of US "justice" involve interracial homosexual rape fantasies. Of course the interracial part that creeps in is a reminder that the US is not free. It still hasn't paid for hundreds of years of hard forced labor from many individuals. The guilt from this causes it to act strangely.
- lazide 1y ago
  If this is the weirdest thing involving the US you’re aware of right now, I’d highly recommend continuing to ignore the news.
  - pessimizer 1y ago
    You seem to love your television. I'm a middle-aged black American, I don't think Jimmy Kimmel and tariffs are worse than the what slavery and the US justice system has done to black people. I can understand if you're worried about your favorite programs being disrupted, though.
    - bambax 1y ago
      The difference is, slavery is supposed to be over? And freedom of speech is supposed to be the law of the land?
    - lazide 1y ago
      If you’re a black American and you think tariffs and Jimmy Kimmel (as in the individual, not what the ‘system’ being aimed at him is) is what I’m talking about, I’m really shocked. Do you remember what happened the last time the FBI, CIA, etc. got used the way it is now? Hint: several high profile black Americans got assassinated. Among other crazy others.
- bambax 1y ago
  The US obsession with "security" is striking (not least in IT). I recently realized it has its roots in the fact that Americans are invaders and slave owners. They have this constant fear of being killed in their sleep by the people they stole the land from, and the slaves who live with them. There's an Irish comedian who has a bit that goes like this "As an Irishman I don't have white guilt. At all. In Ireland we had potatoes on the ground. We picked them up ourselves. We didn't steal people from another continent to come do it for us. That would be insane."
lucianbr 1y ago
I read it rather as a description of how very serious the threat of prison is, and why the risk is not worth it. Didn't seem funny to me at all, though I may well be reading it wrong. It certainly didn't seem like the commenter was agreeing with the way the government runs prisons or what happens in them. Again, maybe they do, and I just failed to see it.
cyphar 1y ago
I do get your point, but in this particular case, it's a quote from Office Space (1999) and while the movie is a comedy, I don't think it's fair to say that it was specifically a joke about or making light of sexual violence in prisons. The characters in the movie are also obviously scared about the possibility[1], so I'm not even sure I would characterise it as a simple joke (it is used as a callback in the form of a joke later but it is again something the character is having a nightmare about[2] and the joke is based on the absurdity of the phrase and the naivete of the main character, not what the phrase is referencing). This is also not a uniquely US-specific thing, lots of UK dramas have made similar jokes (for just one example, see [3]). Obviously I expect you would find those objectionable too, my point was just that it's not a US-specific thing -- humans have a tendency to make light of things like that as humour and some people understandably don't see the humour in it. Such is the human condition... [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzvMLW0ii4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzvMLW0ii4 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htCJTPu8GPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htCJTPu8GPE [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8DfCgVWx8&t=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8DfCgVWx8&t=19
- fennecbutt 1y ago
  Ah so I can be racist and homophobic and do blackface as I please. I can just point to a movie from the 50s-60s and then shout "but it's just a reference, it's just a reference so it's fine!" Yup, sound logic.
halfmatthalfcat 1y ago
What's worse - never knowing it exists and isn't talked about, or it being at least vocalized and known in pop culture, even if it's used as the butt of a joke? Yes it's not funny but some people use humor to convey terrible things to make it socially acceptable or palatable.
- fennecbutt 1y ago
  Funny how it's only directed at certain people or certain topics though. Applied completely inequally. Your point only makes sense if the humour is general. But nobody's hoping on national TV when a female athlete trips going "ha ha she got Ted bundy'd, omg absolutely raped ha!" see how disgusting and vile that sounds? But you know "pound me in the ass prison" is a cult classic (I still like the overall movie) and nobody would have any problem with airing it on TV. No point arguing with humans tho, our species is lame.
  - yibg 1y ago
    Prefacing this by saying I'm fairly left leaning and the right would call me woke. But this type of discussion is why "comedy is legal again" takes hold with a large portion of the population. The comment is crass perhaps, but now we have a bunch of comments like this that is relating the original comment to some sort of deficiency in the person (our species is lame).

by bambax 1y ago

pessimizer 1y ago

It's simply bizarre that dreams of US "justice" involve interracial homosexual rape fantasies. Of course the interracial part that creeps in is a reminder that the US is not free. It still hasn't paid for hundreds of years of hard forced labor from many individuals. The guilt from this causes it to act strangely.

lazide 1y ago
If this is the weirdest thing involving the US you’re aware of right now, I’d highly recommend continuing to ignore the news.
- pessimizer 1y ago
  You seem to love your television. I'm a middle-aged black American, I don't think Jimmy Kimmel and tariffs are worse than the what slavery and the US justice system has done to black people. I can understand if you're worried about your favorite programs being disrupted, though.
  - bambax 1y ago
    The difference is, slavery is supposed to be over? And freedom of speech is supposed to be the law of the land?
  - lazide 1y ago
    If you’re a black American and you think tariffs and Jimmy Kimmel (as in the individual, not what the ‘system’ being aimed at him is) is what I’m talking about, I’m really shocked. Do you remember what happened the last time the FBI, CIA, etc. got used the way it is now? Hint: several high profile black Americans got assassinated. Among other crazy others.
bambax 1y ago
The US obsession with "security" is striking (not least in IT). I recently realized it has its roots in the fact that Americans are invaders and slave owners. They have this constant fear of being killed in their sleep by the people they stole the land from, and the slaves who live with them. There's an Irish comedian who has a bit that goes like this "As an Irishman I don't have white guilt. At all. In Ireland we had potatoes on the ground. We picked them up ourselves. We didn't steal people from another continent to come do it for us. That would be insane."

lucianbr 1y ago

I read it rather as a description of how very serious the threat of prison is, and why the risk is not worth it. Didn't seem funny to me at all, though I may well be reading it wrong. It certainly didn't seem like the commenter was agreeing with the way the government runs prisons or what happens in them. Again, maybe they do, and I just failed to see it.

cyphar 1y ago

I do get your point, but in this particular case, it's a quote from Office Space (1999) and while the movie is a comedy, I don't think it's fair to say that it was specifically a joke about or making light of sexual violence in prisons. The characters in the movie are also obviously scared about the possibility[1], so I'm not even sure I would characterise it as a simple joke (it is used as a callback in the form of a joke later but it is again something the character is having a nightmare about[2] and the joke is based on the absurdity of the phrase and the naivete of the main character, not what the phrase is referencing). This is also not a uniquely US-specific thing, lots of UK dramas have made similar jokes (for just one example, see [3]). Obviously I expect you would find those objectionable too, my point was just that it's not a US-specific thing -- humans have a tendency to make light of things like that as humour and some people understandably don't see the humour in it. Such is the human condition... [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzvMLW0ii4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBzvMLW0ii4 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htCJTPu8GPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htCJTPu8GPE [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8DfCgVWx8&t=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8DfCgVWx8&t=19

fennecbutt 1y ago
Ah so I can be racist and homophobic and do blackface as I please. I can just point to a movie from the 50s-60s and then shout "but it's just a reference, it's just a reference so it's fine!" Yup, sound logic.

halfmatthalfcat 1y ago

What's worse - never knowing it exists and isn't talked about, or it being at least vocalized and known in pop culture, even if it's used as the butt of a joke? Yes it's not funny but some people use humor to convey terrible things to make it socially acceptable or palatable.

fennecbutt 1y ago
Funny how it's only directed at certain people or certain topics though. Applied completely inequally. Your point only makes sense if the humour is general. But nobody's hoping on national TV when a female athlete trips going "ha ha she got Ted bundy'd, omg absolutely raped ha!" see how disgusting and vile that sounds? But you know "pound me in the ass prison" is a cult classic (I still like the overall movie) and nobody would have any problem with airing it on TV. No point arguing with humans tho, our species is lame.
- yibg 1y ago
  Prefacing this by saying I'm fairly left leaning and the right would call me woke. But this type of discussion is why "comedy is legal again" takes hold with a large portion of the population. The comment is crass perhaps, but now we have a bunch of comments like this that is relating the original comment to some sort of deficiency in the person (our species is lame).