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Right, I get that dealing with family law issues can be extremely difficult — especially when irrational or abusive people are involved. But at some point custo

by nradov 1y ago

Right, I get that dealing with family law issues can be extremely difficult — especially when irrational or abusive people are involved. But at some point custodial parents need to step up and do what's necessary to collect the money owed to their children even though it's a painful process. It sucks and it's unfair but usually better than letting the children become homeless. The subject of the story might have her reasons (the father could be dead for all we know) and I wouldn't presume to criticize her based on such a limited set of facts. My criticism of the journalists is that they just leave that part out. It's sloppy writing and leaves the reader wondering what else they missed? Like they can ask for the intimate details of the family's financial history and living situation but they can't ask about child support? It makes no sense.

999900000999 1y ago
So he can go tell the court she's an unfit parent and she'll lose custody of her kids? If anything doing a story like this is really risky for her, CPS could argue she's not capable and make things really different. People get really messed up and vindictive when it comes to child support. I'm 100% sure she's evaluated her options and child support just isn't one of them.
- nradov 1y ago
  No, you can't be "100% sure" of anything because the article omitted key facts. That's my point. You're making unwarranted assumptions about people you don't even know. Litigants say a lot of things in family court. So what. Judges don't automatically believe such claims. An allegation of being an unfit parent doesn't mean loss of custody so quit exaggerating. While you can find rare stories of CPS employees and judges who abused their authority, the reality is that CPS makes every effort to keep families together and only take children away from parents in extreme cases of abuse or neglect.
  - 999900000999 1y ago
    I'm just going to assume that you don't have any personal firsthand experience with the system . I'm going to trust the judgment of the struggling single mother, there's probably a good reason she's not collecting child support right now. This website has a tendency of attracting upper middle class people, and the vast majority of you have just world theory. You think things are much more fair than they really are. I will agree that this is irresponsible journalism, unless they paid her a significant amount of money, the potential downsides of exposing her situation outweigh any benefits. A social worker can easily make a case for sending the kids to foster care from an article like this. Even just getting CPS to leave her alone might be a difficult process
    - nradov 1y ago
      Your assumption is wrong. I have personal firsthand experience with the system through attending hearings and reviewing legal documents in support of friends and family members involved in family court cases.
      - 999900000999 1y ago
        That's the definition of secondhand experience. It wasn't your case, it was a family member or a friends. It's the difference between being in a car crash and watching one happen.
alistairSH 1y ago
at some point custodial parents need to step up and do what's necessary to collect the money owed to their children even though it's a painful process Can't squeeze blood out of a rock. I've seen cases where the non-custodial parent just quit their job and moved every time the custodial parent attempted to collect. Or, just flat our refused to earn any income - they literally preferred to be impoverished to assisting in child-rearing expenses. At some point, it's overall easier to pretend that non-custodial parent doesn't exist and move on with your life.
- nradov 1y ago
  That's a lot of speculation. We don't who know whether any of those circumstances applied in this particular case because the journalist was too lazy to include key facts in the story.
  - alistairSH 1y ago
    It's not speculation, it literally happened to a family member. You're the one speculating that there's always a route to collecting support or that the custodial parent hasn't bothered. :shrug:
    - nradov 1y ago
      I never claimed that there's always a route to collecting support so quit lying and trying to put words in my mouth. My claim is that the article is badly written because it omitted relevant details about support. What happened to your family member is irrelevant to this article.

by nradov 1y ago

999900000999 1y ago

So he can go tell the court she's an unfit parent and she'll lose custody of her kids? If anything doing a story like this is really risky for her, CPS could argue she's not capable and make things really different. People get really messed up and vindictive when it comes to child support. I'm 100% sure she's evaluated her options and child support just isn't one of them.

nradov 1y ago
No, you can't be "100% sure" of anything because the article omitted key facts. That's my point. You're making unwarranted assumptions about people you don't even know. Litigants say a lot of things in family court. So what. Judges don't automatically believe such claims. An allegation of being an unfit parent doesn't mean loss of custody so quit exaggerating. While you can find rare stories of CPS employees and judges who abused their authority, the reality is that CPS makes every effort to keep families together and only take children away from parents in extreme cases of abuse or neglect.
- 999900000999 1y ago
  I'm just going to assume that you don't have any personal firsthand experience with the system . I'm going to trust the judgment of the struggling single mother, there's probably a good reason she's not collecting child support right now. This website has a tendency of attracting upper middle class people, and the vast majority of you have just world theory. You think things are much more fair than they really are. I will agree that this is irresponsible journalism, unless they paid her a significant amount of money, the potential downsides of exposing her situation outweigh any benefits. A social worker can easily make a case for sending the kids to foster care from an article like this. Even just getting CPS to leave her alone might be a difficult process
  - nradov 1y ago
    Your assumption is wrong. I have personal firsthand experience with the system through attending hearings and reviewing legal documents in support of friends and family members involved in family court cases.
    - 999900000999 1y ago
      That's the definition of secondhand experience. It wasn't your case, it was a family member or a friends. It's the difference between being in a car crash and watching one happen.

alistairSH 1y ago

at some point custodial parents need to step up and do what's necessary to collect the money owed to their children even though it's a painful process Can't squeeze blood out of a rock. I've seen cases where the non-custodial parent just quit their job and moved every time the custodial parent attempted to collect. Or, just flat our refused to earn any income - they literally preferred to be impoverished to assisting in child-rearing expenses. At some point, it's overall easier to pretend that non-custodial parent doesn't exist and move on with your life.

nradov 1y ago
That's a lot of speculation. We don't who know whether any of those circumstances applied in this particular case because the journalist was too lazy to include key facts in the story.
- alistairSH 1y ago
  It's not speculation, it literally happened to a family member. You're the one speculating that there's always a route to collecting support or that the custodial parent hasn't bothered. :shrug:
  - nradov 1y ago
    I never claimed that there's always a route to collecting support so quit lying and trying to put words in my mouth. My claim is that the article is badly written because it omitted relevant details about support. What happened to your family member is irrelevant to this article.