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A lot of intellectually lazy comments on this post. Yes, there is a rise in rabies cases. In 2021 we experienced 2008 levels. The rise mostly has to do with do

by oooyay 1y ago

A lot of intellectually lazy comments on this post. Yes, there is a rise in rabies cases. In 2021 we experienced 2008 levels. The rise mostly has to do with domestic animal contact with bats: https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2022/p0106-human-rabies.html https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2022/p010... It is also true that 40% of dog owning households don't get their dogs vaccinated because they don't believe animal vaccines are medically necessary or effective. 37% of dog owners also believe vaccines can give their dog autism: https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/nearly-half-of-dog-owners-are-hesitant-to-vaccinate-their-pets/ https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/nearly-half-of-dog... There is no scientific evidence vaccines give dogs or humans autism.

timr 1y ago
> It is also true that 40% of dog owning households don't get their dogs vaccinated because they don't believe animal vaccines are medically necessary or effective. First of all, no, that's not what this says. The exact quote is: > according to the survey results, nearly 40 percent of dog owners believe that canine vaccines are unsafe, more than 20 percent believe these vaccines are ineffective, and 30 percent consider them to be medically unnecessary. In fact, when you look at the paper they're citing [1], they notably do not state if the respondent actually vaccinated their pet. Not sure why.... (EDIT: Actually, it's worse than that! I found a draft of the full text, and a full 84% of respondents vaccinated their pets for Rabies! [2] You can't make this stuff up. See my other comment for more [3]). Second, it's based on a YouGov (aka, a web survey) of 2200 people: > The survey was conducted between March 30 and April 10, 2023 among 2,200 dog owners who answered questions through the research sampling firm YouGov. I would be very hesitant to draw any conclusions from this at all. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X23010150 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S02644... [2] https://ideas.repec.org/p/osf/socarx/qmbkv.html https://ideas.repec.org/p/osf/socarx/qmbkv.html [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45329845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45329845

by oooyay 1y ago

timr 1y ago

> It is also true that 40% of dog owning households don't get their dogs vaccinated because they don't believe animal vaccines are medically necessary or effective. First of all, no, that's not what this says. The exact quote is: > according to the survey results, nearly 40 percent of dog owners believe that canine vaccines are unsafe, more than 20 percent believe these vaccines are ineffective, and 30 percent consider them to be medically unnecessary. In fact, when you look at the paper they're citing [1], they notably do not state if the respondent actually vaccinated their pet. Not sure why.... (EDIT: Actually, it's worse than that! I found a draft of the full text, and a full 84% of respondents vaccinated their pets for Rabies! [2] You can't make this stuff up. See my other comment for more [3]). Second, it's based on a YouGov (aka, a web survey) of 2200 people: > The survey was conducted between March 30 and April 10, 2023 among 2,200 dog owners who answered questions through the research sampling firm YouGov. I would be very hesitant to draw any conclusions from this at all. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X23010150 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S02644... [2] https://ideas.repec.org/p/osf/socarx/qmbkv.html https://ideas.repec.org/p/osf/socarx/qmbkv.html [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45329845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45329845