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The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much

The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much time of lower coverage it will take before we start to see measles, rabies, or others become regular problems again. If you’re traveling, it’s more important than ever to make sure your own vaccines are fully up to date. And if you’re in a high-risk group, the US may not be the safest destination in the near future.

timr 1y ago
> The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much time of lower coverage it will take before we start to see measles, rabies, or others become regular problems again. Whatever you think of the current HHS leadership, pet dogs and wild animals are not getting rabies from unvaccinated humans.
- portaouflop 1y ago
  But they get it from unvaccinated dogs? The point is that many Americans don’t want to use any vaccines anymore even for their pets
  - timr 1y ago
    Citation absolutely required for that claim. Even ignoring the fact in order to get your pet licensed anywhere in the US you have to vaccinate it for Rabies, the transmission chain doesn't work that way. When people get Rabies, they get it overwhelmingly from wild animals (or stray dogs in some parts of the world).
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thaumasiotes 1y ago
> The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much time of lower coverage it will take before we start to see measles, rabies, or others become regular problems again. Rabies vaccines have never been required. You're only expected to get them after being bitten by a potentially-rabid animal.
- watwut 1y ago
  Some countries require them for dogs.
jandrewrogers 1y ago
Rabies vaccines have never been required. It is disingenuous to even imply otherwise. Humans are only given a rabies vaccine if there is evidence of exposure. Exaggerating the issue just gives average people reasons to disbelieve you. Turning vaccines into quasi-religious totems is counter-productive. It should be a pure cost-benefit analysis. I am way more vaccinated than most people, side effects of my interesting career, but I am under no delusions that much of it is not an almost total waste as a matter of science. Measles, yes. Rabies, lol no. If you conflate them people will rightly not trust you.

timr 1y ago

> The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much time of lower coverage it will take before we start to see measles, rabies, or others become regular problems again. Whatever you think of the current HHS leadership, pet dogs and wild animals are not getting rabies from unvaccinated humans.

portaouflop 1y ago
But they get it from unvaccinated dogs? The point is that many Americans don’t want to use any vaccines anymore even for their pets
- timr 1y ago
  Citation absolutely required for that claim. Even ignoring the fact in order to get your pet licensed anywhere in the US you have to vaccinate it for Rabies, the transmission chain doesn't work that way. When people get Rabies, they get it overwhelmingly from wild animals (or stray dogs in some parts of the world).

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thaumasiotes 1y ago

> The short-term effects of relaxing vaccine requirements won’t be obvious right away, but the consequences will likely compound over time. I don’t know how much time of lower coverage it will take before we start to see measles, rabies, or others become regular problems again. Rabies vaccines have never been required. You're only expected to get them after being bitten by a potentially-rabid animal.

watwut 1y ago
Some countries require them for dogs.

jandrewrogers 1y ago

Rabies vaccines have never been required. It is disingenuous to even imply otherwise. Humans are only given a rabies vaccine if there is evidence of exposure. Exaggerating the issue just gives average people reasons to disbelieve you. Turning vaccines into quasi-religious totems is counter-productive. It should be a pure cost-benefit analysis. I am way more vaccinated than most people, side effects of my interesting career, but I am under no delusions that much of it is not an almost total waste as a matter of science. Measles, yes. Rabies, lol no. If you conflate them people will rightly not trust you.