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What's the median pay of big tech workers? I started at 150k 8 years ago as a new grad, for comparison.
by foota 1y ago
What's the median pay of big tech workers? I started at 150k 8 years ago as a new grad, for comparison.
- legitster 1y agoOP's comment still makes no sense then. H1bs are not hollowing out "middle class" wage earners then - the most you could say is that they are slightly reducing income of high-income earners. But also, the H1b median salary for a software engineer is ~$120k, which is almost identical to that of the US median overall - so all of this hullabaloo seems pretty groundless.
- rramadass 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45306919 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45306919
- alephnerd 1y agoPretty much. All this did is now create a thousand talents program for India. H1B visa abuse by consultancies and mass recruiters is a real issue, but this now incentivized companies like Google, Meta, Microsoft, Pfizer, Cheveron etc to expand their Indian offices. Edit: can't reply > Was there any reason for them not to? It's cheaper than H1B anyways. Spending an additional $10-15k in visa filing fees isn't that big of a deal for an employer who's already paying around 25-35% in withholding and benefits, but at $100K that makes it enough that if you needed to sponsor 10 people on an H1B, you now hit the monetary amount to avail GCC tax rebates and subsidies in most of Eastern Europe and India, where they will give you an additional $10-20k in tax credits and subsidies per head. Basically, opening a new office abroad just to save on $10-15k of filing fees per employees wasn't worth it, but now that it'll be $100k per employee, the math just shifted. > Why is this parasitic organization allowed to incorporate? VC now, not a director anymore. But help me find a new grad with 3-4 years of exploit development and OS internals experience in the US. I can't. On the other hand, I can in Tel Aviv. There's a reason the entire cybersecurity industry has shifted outside the US. Large sectors of the US tech scene just lack ANY domestic know-how.
- _DeadFred_ 1y agoOK. But I'm not fighting against them for jobs here. I'm not fighting against H1Bs who are willing to put up with different shared housing situations than I am for housing here.
- giantg2 1y ago"...to expand their Indian offices." Was there any reason for them not to? It's cheaper than H1B anyways.
- bigfatkitten 1y agoBecause being in roughly the same timezone as the people you’re managing is underrated.
- giantg2 1y agoThis is mostly just a benefit for mixed teams. If you have entire departments offshore, then you have less cross-zone interaction.
- kelvinjps 1y agoDoes it matter for a company at the size of Google?
- disgruntledphd2 1y agoYes, as platform teams are generally colocated somewhere else.
- red_rech 1y agoSo you’re going to hire foreigners in the US or you’re going to ship the whole operation overseas. Why is this parasitic organization allowed to incorporate?
- h1bnotfound 1y ago[dead]
- giantg2 1y agoThe median is actually $133k per the BLS. The upperbound for middle class pay is over $100k in all states, approaching $200k in a couple.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago<< the most you could say is that they are slightly reducing income of high-income earners First, I would like you to reconsider 'high income' and putting $120k in that category. It was a good chunk of change. In this year of our lord 2025, it is not. It is, for my region anyway, barely acceptable middle class income.
- myrmidon 1y agoIf you barely consider yourself middle-class with an income 50% over the median then you are probably at least living in a "high income" region :P And your self-classification is questionable, but that is very common. Maybe a good trigger to experience gratefulness and satisfaction for the economical situation you are in?
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y agoI think you misunderstand me greatly and, more importantly, greatly misunderstand the zeitgeist. I am unbelievably thankful for being paid for what I am doing the amount I am paid. But, and this is the most important part, just because I am in better situation than most, does not make the overall state of the population that much less shitty. Am I getting through to you?
- jopsen 1y ago> does not make the overall state of the population that much less shitty. Has it ever been better? Not saying it shouldn't, just that we might have unrealistic expectations.
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- reverius42 1y agoHousing affordability was better from 2009-2021 than now. https://www.atlantafed.org/research/data-and-tools/home-ownership-affordability-monitor https://www.atlantafed.org/research/data-and-tools/home-owne... Total national health expenditures have grown much faster than population growth: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-spending-healthcare-changed-time/ https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-spe... And yet, over the same time period, life expectancy hasn't gone up that much: https://datacommons.org/tools/visualization#visType%3Dtimeline%26place%3Dcountry%2FUSA%26sv%3D%7B%22dcid%22%3A%22LifeExpectancy_Person%22%7D https://datacommons.org/tools/visualization#visType%3Dtimeli...
- scarface_74 1y agoHow many H1B workers do the WITCH companies employ? They are definitely competing with the “middle class”.