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Slow Liquid

71 points by thomasjb 1y ago

righthand 1y ago
Not surprising, Apple is going to make you say “I love glass” whether it works or not or if there’s pushback or not or if it makes your device worse or not. Time to switch to a Linux phone where the UI doesn’t need to constantly be redeveloped for lifestyle + product manager promotions.
- NetMageSCW 1y ago
  Linux would be the poster child of fractious UI fights and different ways of doing things and changing things just because.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    Yup. Imagine my surprise as a Linux user, seeing paying customers subjected to this level of quality control...
- adastra22 1y ago
  That’s what Android is, right? The Linux phone? Where there is an ongoing battle between Samsung and Google interfaces?
waynecochran 1y ago
Remember when Snow Leopard came out? No new user features. It just ran faster. Greatest OS release in history. Why can't Apple just do that again with one of their OS's?
- gjsman-1000 1y ago
  This is generally seen as mythologizing, as Snow Leopard had mountains of bugs at launch. Everybody just fell in love with 10.6.8.
  - glhaynes 1y ago
    It would erase your home folder! https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/snow-leopard-bug-deletes-all-user-data-idUS698539042 https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/snow-leopard-bug-d... It's no surprise that it had lots of bugs because it rewrote lots of components. But the power of storytelling (and remembering via most-upvoted Reddit comment) has turned it into the perfect release.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    You seem to be saying something entirely different and not contradictory?
- ziofill 1y ago
  Oh man, that would be well received for sure. A release just about performance and bug fixes. Pure gold.
  - accrual 1y ago
    I would love a year of bugfix-only releases from Apple.
- concinds 1y ago
  I don't understand this narrative anymore. The yearly macOS changes are objectively minimal. It's a mature platform. This year, a new design and a few power user features (Spotlight, Shortcuts, tidbits like Call Screening/Hold) and framework overhauls (Metal 4), that's it. Heck, new design excepted, I doubt Snow Leopard added fewer features than Tahoe. Snow Leopard was mainly framework overhauls, but they're still doing those, year after year, only piecewise. People praise Snow Leopard as a golden release, but early on it was very buggy and, for many, slow (I still remember). It only became great after refinement. Now Tahoe seems stable enough (not counting minor UI glitches) that even Ableton/Pro Tools/SPSS/AdobeCC and other frequent troublemakers work fine on release day, an unusual feat. The "downhill" narrative seems to be nothing but baseless nostalgia. Everybody also forgets that Apple always did yearly macOS releases except for a short gap around the iPhone and iPad introductions. That's not new either.
MattDamonSpace 1y ago
Given how many visual glitches persist on last year’s top-of-the-line phone, I’m guessing they’re far behind where they wanted to be and older phone performance got “appropriately” bumped I’m willing to bet they moved LG up a year to help fill
n3storm 1y ago
You are welcome to Linux, 11iquid refugees.
- agency 1y ago
  on an iPhone?
  - maelito 1y ago
    The blog post also talks about MacOS at the end.
    - adastra22 1y ago
      Linux isn’t on option on recent Mac hardware either.
      - defraudbah 1y ago
        asahi linux is still a thing as far as I know, give it a shot
        adastra22 1y ago
        Asahi only supports M1 and M2 at present. Having lost their main contributors, I’m not expecting that to change either.
  - Insanity 1y ago
    Technically that’s what Android is.
- defraudbah 1y ago
  more like graphene os on android phones
crazygringo 1y ago
I will say, wait at least a day before coming to this conclusion. Maybe the iPhone 13 Mini really will stay choppy, but even my brand-new current gen iPad got super-choppy for the first couple of hours and I was freaked out. Turns out it was just that thing where iOS reindexes everything for Spotlight on a major version upgrade, or god only knows what it's doing in the background.
- robin_reala 1y ago
  My 13 mini still runs super slowly 4 days after updating. I’m just hoping for a quick patch update from Apple at this point, because 26 is a serious downgrade from 18 at this point.
  - fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
    How's your battery health?
    - robin_reala 1y ago
      94%. The phone itself is fine, just the software that’s problematic.
  - conradev 1y ago
    When you say “running slowly”, do you mean: - Apps launch slower (time from app launch to interactivity) - Apps hang more frequently (interface freezes after interaction) - Apps drop frames (scrolling and animations stutter) I imagine it’s some combination of the above. Apps and the operating systems that run them get bigger and slower over time. There really isn’t a “slowness constant” to tweak short of animation speed, and I believe Apple made app launch noticeably faster, animation-wise in iOS 26. Just lots and lots of regressions to fix.
    - robin_reala 1y ago
      The third: there’s stutter all over the place, jank in pretty much every animation. E.g. before leaving this comment I just swiped between two app screens and got a ~10 frame hiccough in the middle of the animation. The jank is pervasive.
Xenoamorphous 1y ago
Just when I was considering upgrading to iOS 26 in an iPhone 12...
kasperset 1y ago
Granted I have the M4 Mac Studio, but it seems to be running just fine in my 3-4 days of use so far. Also the OS seems to be as stable as last version. I wonder if there are any issues besides the visual glitches and slowness? Also over the years I have found MacOS generally stable. I hope they will address the issues over time. On the side note, I actually miss Snow Leopard release and in general miss the "Skeuomorphism" in all the software I use.
- Etheryte 1y ago
  You do realize you're comparing a high-end desktop to a budget phone, right?
vamsiraju 1y ago
Toggling Reduced Transparency ON in Accessibility makes it so much better.
- robin_reala 1y ago
  It makes it much more usable, but it doesn’t make it faster. Or at least it doesn’t bring it up to an acceptable level.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    On my phone it made it very snappy, just as fast as the old 18 experience. Far less polished and imho still a downgrade from a usability perspective, but definitely faster than with the setting off.
tarlinian 1y ago
Thank you for the link to Robin Sloan’s blog and temporarily answering my question about whether I should upgrade iOS. I love his books and for some reason never thought to look to see if he wrote anything else online.
- thomasjb 1y ago
  I'd encourage you to get his email newsletter as well! He puts out really interesting and thoughtful content in my experience.
teekert 1y ago
Hmm I don’t feel like my iPhone 12 mini got any slower? Wonder what op experiences specifically…
yesfitz 1y ago
Counter example: 12 Mini runs fine. Health-wise, it's got 22 GB free, and the battery was replaced in February, 2025. I really dig the redesign. I've been suffering through flat UIs since at least 2013, so having some volume back is very welcome. I know we probably won't go back to skeuomorphism, but that'd be great. Metaphor in design is important. It's a shortcut to understanding. As it stands, I'll gladly take Liquid Glass's volume and distortion as a indicator of interactability. But, I am a "harbinger of failure"[1], (12 Mini, right?), so maybe this won't be long-lived either. 1: https://news.mit.edu/2015/harbinger-failure-consumers-unpopular-products-1223 https://news.mit.edu/2015/harbinger-failure-consumers-unpopu...
- qingcharles 1y ago
  My very old 8th Gen iPad (32GB) works just fine with 26 too.
InTheArena 1y ago
I suspect that OP might be having his photos re-indexed. Running on old hardware, and not seeing this problem.
- yohannparis 1y ago
  Yeah I bet that's it. The first ~24 hours, my iPhone 15 Pro was burning hot and sluggish. Now it's fine.
Insanity 1y ago
I am running iOS26 on my iPhone 13 Pro, and on my m1 iPad Pro. It runs fine on both, but I really regret upgrading on my iPad because the new window management options are terrible. It makes me actively dislike using my iPad now, and it used to be my daily driver.
- adastra22 1y ago
  You can turn those off, no? When I upgraded it asked me which I preferred, the old or the new style, and I kept the old. I presume it’s a setting toggle somewhere.
  - Insanity 1y ago
    No, the original slide over is gone. See https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1nk36lz/can_we_get_apple_to_bring_back_slide_over/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1nk36lz/can_we_get_ap...
    - adastra22 1y ago
      I see. I didn’t realize it was an option between two totally new interfaces. What a weird way to handle it.
      - Insanity 1y ago
        Yup, it’s quite a frustrating experience to use the iPad now.
accrual 1y ago
Does anyone have experience with iOS 26 on an iPhone 15 Pro yet?
- Bullfight2Cond 1y ago
  smooth
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
  Smooth, no performance issues for me, been using it since first public beta. I thought the whole liquid look was pretty meh at first, but I'm used to it enough at this point that I don't even think about it.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  so far, i haven't noticed any performance issues myself. my phone usage is pretty minimal - i don't venture outside of iMessage, feeed, my insulin pump software, a couple of low-requirement games and Orion. on the other hand, my coworker also has a 15 Pro and he complains that things are slow compared to iOS 18 for him.
- adastra22 1y ago
  I’ve an iPhone 16 Pro and it is definitely a noticeable slowdown for me, if you compare having “Reduce Transparency” on or off (which toggles most of the Liquid Glass effects). As evidenced by the sibling comments, not everyone seems to be as sensitive to this.
TimTheTinker 1y ago
I'm certainly regretting updating my iPhone SE (3rd gen) to iOS 26. It doesn't feel much slower, but the battery life seems to be a lot less than it was last week. And I had to turn off my accessibility customizations (reduce transparency, etc.) so the interface didn't look completely terrible.
dionian 1y ago
yet another person complaining while their phone is indexing
- qingcharles 1y ago
  "You're holding it wrong"
adastra22 1y ago
If you turn on “reduce transparency” in the accessibility settings, the Liquid Glass effects are toned down, and the UI is much snappier. Unfortunately there are a lot of visual bugs still with this setting, like clipped text boxes. And it removes your wallpaper for inexplicable reasons.
farfolomew 1y ago
This is Windows Vista all over again! I remember people complaining their pieces of crap computers couldn't render the fancy desktop transparent windows
_2d30 1y ago
Alternatively, you can add my voice to the chorus of people with older phones who at first had a choppy experience and then it became perfectly smooth. Likely due to background indexing/updates. iPhone 14 Pro. My Mac actually seems to run faster but I may just be imagining that (M3 Max MBP)
lapcat 1y ago
I'm puzzled why this very short 133 word blog post that offers nothing new — literally: "I will add my voice to the chorus" — is getting upvoted so much on HN. I don't disagree with the blog post, but it's just not interesting, informative, or useful.
- rdtsc 1y ago
  The blog post that broke the camel's back? It's often a matter of timing -- just enough after the update was around, time of day, day of the week, no other major or interesting news, etc.
- _2d30 1y ago
  People love to hate on certain companies for certain things: Apple and all things design is one of those company-thing pairs. Just take a look at the MacOS Tahoe topic (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45252378 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45252378). A HUGE portion of the comments are clearly from people who both (A) don't use MacOS and/or (B) haven't used Tahoe and they are all intensely negative. Taking Hacker News as an inverse signal on these things makes sense. For example, HN's iPhone Air hate is making me extremely bullish on its sales prospects.
  - lapcat 1y ago
    The Tahoe submission was new, relevant, and informative. It was posted on the day that Tahoe was released and includes a list of Tahoe features. It wasn't just a terse "me too" post. I also think that your analysis is reductive. Liquid Glass has some serious usability regressions, so there are very good reasons to criticize it, not just so-called "hate". In any case, there have been plenty of good, informative posts about Liquid Glass and iOS 26 in general; this submission, however, is not one of them.
    - _2d30 1y ago
      You asked why it was upvoted and I gave you the reason. That the referenced post has quality content and some quality discussion is not a rejection of that. I referenced that post not because it is analogous to this post but that the discussion on it is revelatory (which is clear by what I said). Hacker News truly has a large number of topics for which the reactions and responses are reflexively negative and large in magnitude (there are similar positive reactions as well!). This isn't "reductive" analysis and you didn't understand what I said if your point is "your analysis is reductive because liquid glass has some serious usability regressions". You can even look in my own post history to see that I agree with that just fine. Still, look through the discussion! Much of it is clearly reflexive negativity and based on zero user experience.
rdtsc 1y ago
I haven't updated my iphone 14, and seeing posts like these makes me want to wait longer. Does anyone enjoy or like the changes after the upgrade? Are there any worthy tradeoffs like "ok it's slower but at least I can now do $x or they fixed $y and I don't regret updating it".
tobr 1y ago
Just got a brand new iPhone 17 Pro. Even in the setup flow there are tons of little UI glitches going on. Layout jumping around randomly, screens resetting awkwardly, icons not laid out well in their buttons. Not so great first impressions of Liquid Glass, and with absolutely no excuses.
bowsamic 1y ago
This is just a short rant, more like a tweet, and should not be here
glimshe 1y ago
My Mac Air M1 ran a lot slower until I reduced transparency. The glass change would be fine if the UI was objectively better, but it's an usability downgrade. Things are harder to see/read. Meanwhile, I still get prompted by the OS whether I want to allow Chrome to access my local network after it asked me that 10 times already.
nofunsir 1y ago
Website owner has disallowed Wayback Machine.
NaomiLehman 1y ago
damn almost as bad as the IDF /s
- tomhow 1y ago
  It's not clear what you were intending to achieve with this, but please don't post off-topic inflammatory comments here. HN is for curious conversation, not whatever this is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303687 and marked it off topic.

71 points by thomasjb 1y ago

Not surprising, Apple is going to make you say “I love glass” whether it works or not or if there’s pushback or not or if it makes your device worse or not. Time to switch to a Linux phone where the UI doesn’t need to constantly be redeveloped for lifestyle + product manager promotions.

NetMageSCW 1y ago
Linux would be the poster child of fractious UI fights and different ways of doing things and changing things just because.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  Yup. Imagine my surprise as a Linux user, seeing paying customers subjected to this level of quality control...
adastra22 1y ago
That’s what Android is, right? The Linux phone? Where there is an ongoing battle between Samsung and Google interfaces?

waynecochran 1y ago

Remember when Snow Leopard came out? No new user features. It just ran faster. Greatest OS release in history. Why can't Apple just do that again with one of their OS's?

gjsman-1000 1y ago
This is generally seen as mythologizing, as Snow Leopard had mountains of bugs at launch. Everybody just fell in love with 10.6.8.
- glhaynes 1y ago
  It would erase your home folder! https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/snow-leopard-bug-deletes-all-user-data-idUS698539042 https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/snow-leopard-bug-d... It's no surprise that it had lots of bugs because it rewrote lots of components. But the power of storytelling (and remembering via most-upvoted Reddit comment) has turned it into the perfect release.
- adastra22 1y ago
  You seem to be saying something entirely different and not contradictory?
ziofill 1y ago
Oh man, that would be well received for sure. A release just about performance and bug fixes. Pure gold.
- accrual 1y ago
  I would love a year of bugfix-only releases from Apple.
concinds 1y ago
I don't understand this narrative anymore. The yearly macOS changes are objectively minimal. It's a mature platform. This year, a new design and a few power user features (Spotlight, Shortcuts, tidbits like Call Screening/Hold) and framework overhauls (Metal 4), that's it. Heck, new design excepted, I doubt Snow Leopard added fewer features than Tahoe. Snow Leopard was mainly framework overhauls, but they're still doing those, year after year, only piecewise. People praise Snow Leopard as a golden release, but early on it was very buggy and, for many, slow (I still remember). It only became great after refinement. Now Tahoe seems stable enough (not counting minor UI glitches) that even Ableton/Pro Tools/SPSS/AdobeCC and other frequent troublemakers work fine on release day, an unusual feat. The "downhill" narrative seems to be nothing but baseless nostalgia. Everybody also forgets that Apple always did yearly macOS releases except for a short gap around the iPhone and iPad introductions. That's not new either.

MattDamonSpace 1y ago

Given how many visual glitches persist on last year’s top-of-the-line phone, I’m guessing they’re far behind where they wanted to be and older phone performance got “appropriately” bumped I’m willing to bet they moved LG up a year to help fill

n3storm 1y ago

You are welcome to Linux, 11iquid refugees.

agency 1y ago
on an iPhone?
- maelito 1y ago
  The blog post also talks about MacOS at the end.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    Linux isn’t on option on recent Mac hardware either.
    - defraudbah 1y ago
      asahi linux is still a thing as far as I know, give it a shot
      - adastra22 1y ago
        Asahi only supports M1 and M2 at present. Having lost their main contributors, I’m not expecting that to change either.
- Insanity 1y ago
  Technically that’s what Android is.
defraudbah 1y ago
more like graphene os on android phones

crazygringo 1y ago

I will say, wait at least a day before coming to this conclusion. Maybe the iPhone 13 Mini really will stay choppy, but even my brand-new current gen iPad got super-choppy for the first couple of hours and I was freaked out. Turns out it was just that thing where iOS reindexes everything for Spotlight on a major version upgrade, or god only knows what it's doing in the background.

robin_reala 1y ago
My 13 mini still runs super slowly 4 days after updating. I’m just hoping for a quick patch update from Apple at this point, because 26 is a serious downgrade from 18 at this point.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
  How's your battery health?
  - robin_reala 1y ago
    94%. The phone itself is fine, just the software that’s problematic.
- conradev 1y ago
  When you say “running slowly”, do you mean: - Apps launch slower (time from app launch to interactivity) - Apps hang more frequently (interface freezes after interaction) - Apps drop frames (scrolling and animations stutter) I imagine it’s some combination of the above. Apps and the operating systems that run them get bigger and slower over time. There really isn’t a “slowness constant” to tweak short of animation speed, and I believe Apple made app launch noticeably faster, animation-wise in iOS 26. Just lots and lots of regressions to fix.
  - robin_reala 1y ago
    The third: there’s stutter all over the place, jank in pretty much every animation. E.g. before leaving this comment I just swiped between two app screens and got a ~10 frame hiccough in the middle of the animation. The jank is pervasive.

Xenoamorphous 1y ago

Just when I was considering upgrading to iOS 26 in an iPhone 12...

kasperset 1y ago

Granted I have the M4 Mac Studio, but it seems to be running just fine in my 3-4 days of use so far. Also the OS seems to be as stable as last version. I wonder if there are any issues besides the visual glitches and slowness? Also over the years I have found MacOS generally stable. I hope they will address the issues over time. On the side note, I actually miss Snow Leopard release and in general miss the "Skeuomorphism" in all the software I use.

Etheryte 1y ago
You do realize you're comparing a high-end desktop to a budget phone, right?

vamsiraju 1y ago

Toggling Reduced Transparency ON in Accessibility makes it so much better.

robin_reala 1y ago
It makes it much more usable, but it doesn’t make it faster. Or at least it doesn’t bring it up to an acceptable level.
- adastra22 1y ago
  On my phone it made it very snappy, just as fast as the old 18 experience. Far less polished and imho still a downgrade from a usability perspective, but definitely faster than with the setting off.

tarlinian 1y ago

Thank you for the link to Robin Sloan’s blog and temporarily answering my question about whether I should upgrade iOS. I love his books and for some reason never thought to look to see if he wrote anything else online.

thomasjb 1y ago
I'd encourage you to get his email newsletter as well! He puts out really interesting and thoughtful content in my experience.

teekert 1y ago

Hmm I don’t feel like my iPhone 12 mini got any slower? Wonder what op experiences specifically…

yesfitz 1y ago

Counter example: 12 Mini runs fine. Health-wise, it's got 22 GB free, and the battery was replaced in February, 2025. I really dig the redesign. I've been suffering through flat UIs since at least 2013, so having some volume back is very welcome. I know we probably won't go back to skeuomorphism, but that'd be great. Metaphor in design is important. It's a shortcut to understanding. As it stands, I'll gladly take Liquid Glass's volume and distortion as a indicator of interactability. But, I am a "harbinger of failure"[1], (12 Mini, right?), so maybe this won't be long-lived either. 1: https://news.mit.edu/2015/harbinger-failure-consumers-unpopular-products-1223 https://news.mit.edu/2015/harbinger-failure-consumers-unpopu...

qingcharles 1y ago
My very old 8th Gen iPad (32GB) works just fine with 26 too.

InTheArena 1y ago

I suspect that OP might be having his photos re-indexed. Running on old hardware, and not seeing this problem.

yohannparis 1y ago
Yeah I bet that's it. The first ~24 hours, my iPhone 15 Pro was burning hot and sluggish. Now it's fine.

Insanity 1y ago

I am running iOS26 on my iPhone 13 Pro, and on my m1 iPad Pro. It runs fine on both, but I really regret upgrading on my iPad because the new window management options are terrible. It makes me actively dislike using my iPad now, and it used to be my daily driver.

adastra22 1y ago
You can turn those off, no? When I upgraded it asked me which I preferred, the old or the new style, and I kept the old. I presume it’s a setting toggle somewhere.
- Insanity 1y ago
  No, the original slide over is gone. See https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1nk36lz/can_we_get_apple_to_bring_back_slide_over/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/1nk36lz/can_we_get_ap...
  - adastra22 1y ago
    I see. I didn’t realize it was an option between two totally new interfaces. What a weird way to handle it.
    - Insanity 1y ago
      Yup, it’s quite a frustrating experience to use the iPad now.

accrual 1y ago

Does anyone have experience with iOS 26 on an iPhone 15 Pro yet?

Bullfight2Cond 1y ago
smooth
fkyoureadthedoc 1y ago
Smooth, no performance issues for me, been using it since first public beta. I thought the whole liquid look was pretty meh at first, but I'm used to it enough at this point that I don't even think about it.
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
so far, i haven't noticed any performance issues myself. my phone usage is pretty minimal - i don't venture outside of iMessage, feeed, my insulin pump software, a couple of low-requirement games and Orion. on the other hand, my coworker also has a 15 Pro and he complains that things are slow compared to iOS 18 for him.
adastra22 1y ago
I’ve an iPhone 16 Pro and it is definitely a noticeable slowdown for me, if you compare having “Reduce Transparency” on or off (which toggles most of the Liquid Glass effects). As evidenced by the sibling comments, not everyone seems to be as sensitive to this.

TimTheTinker 1y ago

I'm certainly regretting updating my iPhone SE (3rd gen) to iOS 26. It doesn't feel much slower, but the battery life seems to be a lot less than it was last week. And I had to turn off my accessibility customizations (reduce transparency, etc.) so the interface didn't look completely terrible.

dionian 1y ago

yet another person complaining while their phone is indexing

qingcharles 1y ago
"You're holding it wrong"

adastra22 1y ago

If you turn on “reduce transparency” in the accessibility settings, the Liquid Glass effects are toned down, and the UI is much snappier. Unfortunately there are a lot of visual bugs still with this setting, like clipped text boxes. And it removes your wallpaper for inexplicable reasons.

farfolomew 1y ago

This is Windows Vista all over again! I remember people complaining their pieces of crap computers couldn't render the fancy desktop transparent windows

_2d30 1y ago

Alternatively, you can add my voice to the chorus of people with older phones who at first had a choppy experience and then it became perfectly smooth. Likely due to background indexing/updates. iPhone 14 Pro. My Mac actually seems to run faster but I may just be imagining that (M3 Max MBP)

lapcat 1y ago

I'm puzzled why this very short 133 word blog post that offers nothing new — literally: "I will add my voice to the chorus" — is getting upvoted so much on HN. I don't disagree with the blog post, but it's just not interesting, informative, or useful.

rdtsc 1y ago
The blog post that broke the camel's back? It's often a matter of timing -- just enough after the update was around, time of day, day of the week, no other major or interesting news, etc.
_2d30 1y ago
People love to hate on certain companies for certain things: Apple and all things design is one of those company-thing pairs. Just take a look at the MacOS Tahoe topic (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45252378 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45252378). A HUGE portion of the comments are clearly from people who both (A) don't use MacOS and/or (B) haven't used Tahoe and they are all intensely negative. Taking Hacker News as an inverse signal on these things makes sense. For example, HN's iPhone Air hate is making me extremely bullish on its sales prospects.
- lapcat 1y ago
  The Tahoe submission was new, relevant, and informative. It was posted on the day that Tahoe was released and includes a list of Tahoe features. It wasn't just a terse "me too" post. I also think that your analysis is reductive. Liquid Glass has some serious usability regressions, so there are very good reasons to criticize it, not just so-called "hate". In any case, there have been plenty of good, informative posts about Liquid Glass and iOS 26 in general; this submission, however, is not one of them.
  - _2d30 1y ago
    You asked why it was upvoted and I gave you the reason. That the referenced post has quality content and some quality discussion is not a rejection of that. I referenced that post not because it is analogous to this post but that the discussion on it is revelatory (which is clear by what I said). Hacker News truly has a large number of topics for which the reactions and responses are reflexively negative and large in magnitude (there are similar positive reactions as well!). This isn't "reductive" analysis and you didn't understand what I said if your point is "your analysis is reductive because liquid glass has some serious usability regressions". You can even look in my own post history to see that I agree with that just fine. Still, look through the discussion! Much of it is clearly reflexive negativity and based on zero user experience.

rdtsc 1y ago

I haven't updated my iphone 14, and seeing posts like these makes me want to wait longer. Does anyone enjoy or like the changes after the upgrade? Are there any worthy tradeoffs like "ok it's slower but at least I can now do $x or they fixed $y and I don't regret updating it".

tobr 1y ago

Just got a brand new iPhone 17 Pro. Even in the setup flow there are tons of little UI glitches going on. Layout jumping around randomly, screens resetting awkwardly, icons not laid out well in their buttons. Not so great first impressions of Liquid Glass, and with absolutely no excuses.

bowsamic 1y ago

This is just a short rant, more like a tweet, and should not be here

glimshe 1y ago

My Mac Air M1 ran a lot slower until I reduced transparency. The glass change would be fine if the UI was objectively better, but it's an usability downgrade. Things are harder to see/read. Meanwhile, I still get prompted by the OS whether I want to allow Chrome to access my local network after it asked me that 10 times already.

nofunsir 1y ago

Website owner has disallowed Wayback Machine.

NaomiLehman 1y ago

damn almost as bad as the IDF /s

tomhow 1y ago
It's not clear what you were intending to achieve with this, but please don't post off-topic inflammatory comments here. HN is for curious conversation, not whatever this is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303687 and marked it off topic.